The Hole

[frodo1511]

Originally Posted by Hazzle

Just introducing people to the banter, to the unique style of the Wavefront.

Yeah, but some people take your bantering a little TOO seriously, and they never come back.

Their mistake...

[Hazzle]

Originally Posted by frodo1511

Yeah, but some people take your bantering a little TOO seriously, and they never come back.

Their mistake...

True that. C'mon people...it's all a bit of fun...sheesh...

[LoveKeria]

"Unique Style of the Wavefront"

Hummm.....I think i'm duly introduced.

[peach]

I think The Hole was ok but not better than that. I think the begining was better then the rest of it. Things started to go out of hand it got a bit silly and confusing. However when it started I thought It would be a good film, I had to look twice over my sholders every 15 minutes.

[Hazzle]

Originally Posted by peach

I think The Hole was ok but not better than that. I think the begining was better then the rest of it. Things started to go out of hand it got a bit silly and confusing. However when it started I thought It would be a good film, I had to look twice over my sholders every 15 minutes.

Started well, fell apart. True story.

[frodo1511]

Tell me Hazz, is it worth watching/renting? It appears that everyone seems to think it not her best work, and with the rerelease and all, it shouldn't be too terribly hard to find.

[Hazzle]

Originally Posted by frodo1511

Tell me Hazz, is it worth watching/renting? It appears that everyone seems to think it not her best work, and with the rerelease and all, it shouldn't be too terribly hard to find.

Who said it's not her best work? I think one of the main reasons the end was so terrible was that Keira's performance was like...the only good one. And it was actually quite an impressive performance I thought. I'd watch it on tv if I was you, unless you can get a cheapo rental. Depends how much rental costs round your way.

[frodo1511]

Originally Posted by Hazzle

Who said it's not her best work? I think one of the main reasons the end was so terrible was that Keira's performance was like...the only good one. And it was actually quite an impressive performance I thought. I'd watch it on tv if I was you, unless you can get a cheapo rental. Depends how much rental costs round your way.

Ok will do, I've got cable, so I'll be on the lookout. Rentals at Blockbuster are around 2 bucks for a weekend DVD, so I may try there.

[Hazzle]

Originally Posted by frodo1511

Ok will do, I've got cable, so I'll be on the lookout. Rentals at Blockbuster are around 2 bucks for a weekend DVD, so I may try there.

That's not too bad. Try it. It's not too bad and you do get to see the Knightley norks.

[frodo1511]

Originally Posted by Hazzle

you do get to see the Knightley norks.

Ahh, the infamous Knightley norks. Dunno if that's the selling point of the movie, considering you guys said they only get 3 or so seconds of showtime

[Hazzle]

Originally Posted by frodo1511

Ahh, the infamous Knightley norks. Dunno if that's the selling point of the movie, considering you guys said they only get 3 or so seconds of showtime

Ahhh...but then to your rescue there comes the great invention known as the pause button. Arrrr...God bless the man (it had to be a man) who invented the pause button.

[Domino]

she must have had loads of guts to pose nude in a movie, once in my Drama group production a girl had to go on stage topless but no one saw anything cos she wasn't facing the stage. but that was nerve racking for her.

[apoggy]

It was hardly posing nude

[LoveKeria]

If you can put past everyone inherent "judging" its really quite a good movie. The story line is very good and the movie itself is wonderful.

Its quite annoying how people say movies are not good, i tend to be of the opinion that a movie is a movie. I love movies, so when i watch a movie, i'm more like, "wow im watching a movie" and i get so caught up in the story that i completely ignore the fact that it might not be the best movie on earth.

Its true, the Hole is not the be all and end of all movies, however it is one of the best films, percentagly owning to Miss. Knightlys involvedment, but still. I really liked it, and sometimes a confusing or simpled movie, whatever you choose to view it as, is really not that bad anyway. Just watch it, you'll never know otherwise, because no one is the same as you, therefore no one is going to view it exactly like you will.

[Hazzle]

Wasn't confusing or simplified. Was badly made. It was, without doubt, a shit film. That's not an opinion. That's not whether I liked it or not (I actually like it, a lot, and it entertained me...barely...largely thanks to Keira...so very limited repeat viewing), that's a critique of the quality of the filmmaking.

[LoveKeria]

Dosn't mean everyone else is going to have the same opinion. Exibit A...i dont.

[deviljet88]

Hm... its still too depressing for me to watch.

[Leonie]

Originally Posted by LoveKeria

Dosn't mean everyone else is going to have the same opinion. Exibit A...i dont.

You could watch a film and say that some of the actors were bad. That lines were delivered in an awkward way. That certain characters were too flat to be convincing. All of the above does not mean the film is not enjoyable, it merely states facts about the quality. The entertainment factor may still be there. Some people may only enjoy films of good quality. Others believe that a film does not have to be Oscar worthy (i.e. well made, not necessarily entertaining) for them to like it. Your opinion may differ on whether or not you *like* a film, but you can judge its quality objectively.

Hmmm. I think the following bit may contain a bit of a spoiler. It's not like we all don't know the storyline already, but I'll warn you anyway.

Do I think The Hole is a good film? No. Do I like it? Yes. It had some really good things to it. I really liked the first half or so, and at that point I was lost and no longer understood what was going on. I mean that in the best way possible Anyway, me and my sentimental heart were thinking "What, they're not dead after all?" I liked it. It had its funny moments ("But I'm not gay!" "Yeah yeah..."), bits that freaked me out, overall an enjoyable film. But quality-wise... No. The ending was weak and not that convincing.

Like you said in one of your earlier posts, when I watch a film, I get caught up. Most of the time. If I do, that means I like it, if I don't, it means I'm bored. I can't say I enjoy all the art house kinda things that get made, I usually can't care less about the characters, although people would argue those are films of quality. K, I think I've tried to proved my point enough now

[Hazzle]

^^^^^ What she said.

Lovekeria. I didn't state an opinion, I objectively critiqued the film. I even SAID I liked the film. Thus you DO have the same opinion as to its enjoyability. My critique wasn't an opinion, it was an objective judgement of its quality. If you sat down and objective critiqued it, the camerawork, the plot, the lighting etc...and you think it was a great film (as in a well MADE film) then that's fair enough, but stating you liked it does NOT make it a good film. I liked it, I still accept it was a really badly made film.

[Richard]

I liked it. This was actually the first british thriller I've seen.

But just for the record, it's a rather easy film to follow - if one can get passed the accents. I never thought the movie was scary, but I did think it was original.

Keira was great addition to the film, who can say otherwise? Oh but I'm sure someone will.