Dornan Still Talking About Keira.... - Page 3

Pearl · 14-05-2006, 03:17 PM

Leonie, point in case, no one is considered a fan unless you are a Keira ass kisser. See my thread on this:

http://www.keiraknightley.com/forums...ead.php?t=2468

How dare you say something negative about Keira! I shall burn you in oil!

BrunoJA · 14-05-2006, 03:28 PM

...except no one is saying anything like that...

Idle · 14-05-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearl

Leonie, point in case, no one is considered a fan unless you are a Keira ass kisser
....
How dare you say something negative about Keira! I shall burn you in oil!

That's not my point at all.
I don't mind that Leonie dislikes Keira. It's none of my business telling anyone else what they should or should not like.

But when it's said that there has been a change in Keira's behaviour and I don't see it then I think it's fair enough to debate the matter. Just to clarify everyones positions and find out exactly what it is we're seeing differently. Not because we must end up all agreeing.

Idle · 14-05-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonie

For me, what's put me off Keira is the constant pouting extraordinaire. She's always done it a bit, and it never bothered me, but by now, it's starting to look stupid.

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth so correct me if I'm wrong.
But isn't what you're saying here that it's you who's changed and not Keira?
Which would be fair enough, but would also explain why the change could be hard for others to see.

Pearl · 14-05-2006, 03:44 PM

You know this makes me wonder, if Keira weren't as beautiful as she is, how many of you would go to such great lengths to defend her 'honor' because someone had a negative opinion on her.

And don't say it's because she's a great actress or has a great personality. Kate Winslet has is a MUCH better actress and is a great person but no one defends her tooth and nail when someone says she's a fat ass.

BrunoJA · 14-05-2006, 03:50 PM

Well, now you're getting into why we even like her. Which I can't neatly answer.

By the way, I don't think anyone here is trying to "defend her honor" in this discussion...and believe me, there are plenty of Kate Winslet fans. They're just over at KW Wavefront, or something.

Idle · 14-05-2006, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearl

Kate Winslet has is a MUCH better actress and is a great person

Do you know her personally?

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but no one defends her tooth and nail when someone says she's a fat ass.

Why don't you try it? I'm quite sure you'll find that you're mistaken.

Pearl · 14-05-2006, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Idle

Do you know her personally?

Do you know Keira personally?

Idle · 14-05-2006, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Pearl

Do you know Keira personally?

No. I also haven't claimed to know that Keira is a great person. How could I when I don't know her?

So, do you know Kate Winslett personally?
Or are you just a fan because she's beautiful?

BrunoJA · 14-05-2006, 04:23 PM

Why is it this is going nowhere? lol

Pearl · 14-05-2006, 04:41 PM

Because fanboys just refuse to admit their fandom and move on with their lives?

BrunoJA · 14-05-2006, 04:53 PM

Uh...I only see people trying to reasonably discuss something with a few people pulling out the "irrational fan" card before the discussion even starts...

And I think fandom is admitted by all posting on a Keira Knightley fansite.

kingdumbass · 15-05-2006, 12:04 AM

I like Keira more when she's not all glammed up....
Lookee here. Below is link to the blog of someone who met Keira in Rome just a few weeks ago, and got a pic with her. I think Keira looks prettier in this pic than she has in several months, and part of the reason is that she's not trying. And she looks so young!

http://karahope.blogspot.com/2006/04/good-friday.html

BrunoJA · 15-05-2006, 12:19 AM

I like everyone better when they aren't glammed up...

Swordsman · 15-05-2006, 02:03 AM

She looks like better when she's not "glammed up" because she looks like a real person. That's why a lot of people get an infatuation with her for a while and end up here.

Back to Leonie's thing, she's a blockbuster actress now there's gonna be more "die hard" fans with every movie she makes now.

baldinio13 · 15-05-2006, 04:07 AM

Keira Knightley is the most beautiful person in the world! no doubt.. i dont know her.. and i dont care! i like her for her looks

BrunoJA · 15-05-2006, 04:26 AM

A good enough reason lol

kingdumbass · 15-05-2006, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Pearl

You know this makes me wonder, if Keira weren't as beautiful as she is, how many of you would go to such great lengths to defend her 'honor' because someone had a negative opinion on her.

And don't say it's because she's a great actress or has a great personality. Kate Winslet has is a MUCH better actress and is a great person but no one defends her tooth and nail when someone says she's a fat ass.

Do you REALLY know that Kate Winslet is a better actress than Keira Knightley?
Let's say that "Titanic" was being made RIGHT NOW, and Keira was given Kate's role. Do you really KNOW that she wouldn't be just as great as Kate was? No, you don't.

There is simply something compelling about Keira, which is why she attracts interest. Even her detractors seem to know an awful lot about her, which is telling. People notice her, and she gets a reaction out of them. Is Keira really a good actress? Well, I think she is, but objectively speaking, that question has not been TOTALLY answered yet. However, it WILL be answered in the next year or so, which is part of what interests me about Knightley. She has shown flashes of brilliance in recent films, and her performances AS A WHOLE may or may not have been great. I want to see what she does next.

As far as defending her -- I see her attacked in all sorts of ridiculously unfair ways in various quarters. I say fuck that. I will viciously attack anyone who talks shit, and doesn't know what they're saying.

Truth told, I think that Keira will be the next Kate Winslet.

hasselbrad · 15-05-2006, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonie

Long before Hollywood discovered Keira, long before the masses did, it felt like we at KKW were the only people who knew about her, like she was our little brilliant secret

She was very, very cool, and we seemed the only people who realised it. I'm not saying she's not cool anymore, but to me, she has lost a lot of her appeal in slowly conforming to Hollywood's standard interview layout in the last few years.

You sound like an R.E.M. fan.

She's still a hell of a lot cooler and normal than 99% of the actresses I've seen. Most of the "conforming" comes from the format of the show. When she goes on Leno or Letterman, there are certain things the studio wants her to say and there are certain formats that each of those talk shows follow to that end. That's why the 'cleavage painting' story gets told over and over. It fits their format for the type of (safely) humorous story that works for them. They know it's going to get a laugh.
Put Keira on Ellen DeGeneres' show, and she plays Raindrops Keep Fallin' On My Head on her teeth. Ellen's show is more of a reflection of her style and personality, which, in turn, reveals her guest's personality.

once_dreaded · 15-05-2006, 05:52 PM

I listened to the song...dude wrote a after-the-break-up song like we've heard so many times from so many other artisits. The only reason we're disecting it is because it happens to be about an actress we love. So what about the other artists that have made $$$ off of trashing their exes or discussing a break-up in song/book? There's no shame in opening up your feelings about a break-up to the world, Jamie at least did it without completely insulting Keira, I found the weak-thing uncool but that's the way Jamie sees her and he knows her SO well since he was with her for 2 years.

14-05-2006, 03:28 PM	#42
BrunoJA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cranium Posts: 279	...except no one is saying anything like that... __________________ It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat, She gave her heart to the man In the long black coat.

14-05-2006, 03:50 PM	#46
BrunoJA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cranium Posts: 279	Well, now you're getting into why we even like her. Which I can't neatly answer. By the way, I don't think anyone here is trying to "defend her honor" in this discussion...and believe me, there are plenty of Kate Winslet fans. They're just over at KW Wavefront, or something. __________________ It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat, She gave her heart to the man In the long black coat.

14-05-2006, 04:23 PM	#50
BrunoJA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cranium Posts: 279	Why is it this is going nowhere? lol __________________ It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat, She gave her heart to the man In the long black coat.

14-05-2006, 04:53 PM	#52
BrunoJA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cranium Posts: 279	Uh...I only see people trying to reasonably discuss something with a few people pulling out the "irrational fan" card before the discussion even starts... And I think fandom is admitted by all posting on a Keira Knightley fansite. __________________ It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat, She gave her heart to the man In the long black coat.

15-05-2006, 12:19 AM	#54
BrunoJA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cranium Posts: 279	I like everyone better when they aren't glammed up... __________________ It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat, She gave her heart to the man In the long black coat.

14-05-2006, 03:17 PM	#41
Pearl Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Staten Island, New York Posts: 181	Leonie, point in case, no one is considered a fan unless you are a Keira ass kisser. See my thread on this: http://www.keiraknightley.com/forums...ead.php?t=2468 How dare you say something negative about Keira! I shall burn you in oil!

14-05-2006, 03:44 PM	#45
Pearl Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Staten Island, New York Posts: 181	You know this makes me wonder, if Keira weren't as beautiful as she is, how many of you would go to such great lengths to defend her 'honor' because someone had a negative opinion on her. And don't say it's because she's a great actress or has a great personality. Kate Winslet has is a MUCH better actress and is a great person but no one defends her tooth and nail when someone says she's a fat ass.

14-05-2006, 04:41 PM	#51
Pearl Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Staten Island, New York Posts: 181	Because fanboys just refuse to admit their fandom and move on with their lives?

15-05-2006, 12:04 AM	#53
kingdumbass Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: michigan, usa Posts: 866	I like Keira more when she's not all glammed up.... Lookee here. Below is link to the blog of someone who met Keira in Rome just a few weeks ago, and got a pic with her. I think Keira looks prettier in this pic than she has in several months, and part of the reason is that she's not trying. And she looks so young! http://karahope.blogspot.com/2006/04/good-friday.html

15-05-2006, 02:03 AM	#55
Swordsman Voted Best! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: DIY LV Posts: 514	She looks like better when she's not "glammed up" because she looks like a real person. That's why a lot of people get an infatuation with her for a while and end up here. Back to Leonie's thing, she's a blockbuster actress now there's gonna be more "die hard" fans with every movie she makes now. __________________ Fuck the punk scene, up the punk community.

15-05-2006, 04:07 AM	#56
baldinio13 Newcomer Join Date: May 2006 Location: in iceland!! Posts: 18	Keira Knightley is the most beautiful person in the world! no doubt.. i dont know her.. and i dont care! i like her for her looks

15-05-2006, 04:26 AM	#57
BrunoJA Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Cranium Posts: 279	A good enough reason lol __________________ It ain't easy to swallow, it sticks in the throat, She gave her heart to the man In the long black coat.

15-05-2006, 05:52 PM	#60
once_dreaded Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Oregon, USA. Greenest state in the union, sorry Washitonians :oP Posts: 448	I listened to the song...dude wrote a after-the-break-up song like we've heard so many times from so many other artisits. The only reason we're disecting it is because it happens to be about an actress we love. So what about the other artists that have made $$$ off of trashing their exes or discussing a break-up in song/book? There's no shame in opening up your feelings about a break-up to the world, Jamie at least did it without completely insulting Keira, I found the weak-thing uncool but that's the way Jamie sees her and he knows her SO well since he was with her for 2 years. __________________ Once_Dreaded but never feared #88 in the Keira Knightley Posse

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