Keira & the Paparazzi (from Photo Sightings)

[kingdumbass]

Fair enough....
Perhaps I'm taking this chick too seriously. In fact, I most certainly am. Nevertheless, I've taken a liking to her. You're correct -- I am a hardcore fanboy at the moment, although it will eventually pass, like these things always do.

However, your words have inspired me: I'm going to go do something far more productive than obssessing over Keira Knightley for the rest of the evening:
I'm surfing porn.

Good day!

[Liam]

Thats the spirit.

For the record, I don't mean to sound harsh. Its just best said how it is. Think for a moment if I were to buy a car that I knew would fall apart soon after purchase. Would I then have the right to get all pissy about it?

Apply that to fame and photographers.

[Leonie]

Seems I have a lot to catch up with :icon_bigg

Originally Posted by kingdumbass

Leonie....
I noticed that you used the word "Diva". Could it be that you're letting that tabloid report affect your perception?

Let me start by saying that I don't take anything the Star writes seriously. I have however followed Keira's career for the past three years, and have noticed significant change in her. She seems to have lost a lot of the spontaneity I liked so much. However, she has no obligation to anyone, least of all me, to remain the same or to behave in a certain way. That said, I have every right to dislike the way she's come across lately. I'm sure she still is a lovely lady, but she seems to be conforming to Hollywood in the sense that you won't get an ad lib reply out of her these days. Which is a shame.

Originally Posted by kingdumbass

Here are some additional pictures from that shoot. She doesn't look quite so unhappy in all of them.

Doesn't that contradict your statement? To me, that says she's really just putting it on for the photographer of the candids, and not genuinely unhappy or desperately in need of a vacation. I'm sure she's been crazy busy, and I'm sure I wouldn't be überhappy either, but why then waste energy giving a paparazzi photographer filthy looks? Hardly seems worth it. I'd understand it more if they were taking pictures of her going about her daily business, which is indeed private, but she's being photographed *doing her job*. It's not personal, it's not private, and if Vogue feel they've lost money because of these pictures, I'm sure they'll sue Mr Paparazzi. I'd say being candidly photographed on the set of a photoshoot is the best of the worst. It's not harming Keira in any way.

Idle, you seem hell bent on taking my arguments out of context, and if you feel that's the way to discuss things then have fun on your own. The way you interprete what I said is amazingly similar to the way the Star etc. come up with nasty headlines about our beloved Keira. Good on ya.

Part of the fame is being photographed when you don't particularly want to be. It adds to your popularity, whether you like it or not. I bet some of you are first in line to have a look at whatever new photos of Keira out shopping are online. If you are so opposed to them, don't look at them.

If actors care so little about fame, and all just want to do their job, then they'd be starring in indie films that are viewed by about 9 people at a time. You know it's bollocks.

Btw, for all I know she's just looking like that cause the sun's bothering her. Who knows eh. Not the point. I think general paparazzi pictures are an invasion of privacy and not a lovely thing to trade in. This however, is about as mild as it gets, and I don't see the problem.


PS. And for clarity's sake, I ment 'invading', not 'evading' in one of my earlier posts.

[Idle]

Originally Posted by Liam

You haven't met Keira. If you had, you wouldnt be here. You have never had any sort of interaction with her. And you never will. You are NOT qualified in any way, shape or form to make any sort of judgement call on her personality, likeability, or anything else for that matter.

Absolutely true, but surely that goes both ways. The negative judgements you're making are equally unfounded.

[Liam]

But I never said anything profoundly negative. I merely stated my opinion on the matter and attempted to debunk some excited over-reaction.

[Leonie]

Let me be a bit more concise:

1. I think paparazzi photos of stars and their personal life are an invasion of privacy
2. I don't think a photoshoot is part of Keira's personal life
3. Neither is walking around in Hollywood

2 and 3 are part of her professional life, and yes, there will be the occasional photograph. That's part of being famous. Photographers have no right to follow her around as she's walking around at home, or going to the supermarket, or even taking a bunch of friends to a fancy restaurant. That's personal. This isn't.

I think she's a lovely lady, and a busy one at that, and there is no way I can 'prove' this attitude I found annoying, not conclusively, not from these pictures. Like I said, it could be the sun in her eyes or Lord knows what. Not the point. If she's not annoyed by that paparazzi dude, then it's all hypothetic.

[Idle]

Originally Posted by Leonie

Idle, you seem hell bent on taking my arguments out of context, and if you feel that's the way to discuss things then have fun on your own. The way you interprete what I said is amazingly similar to the way the Star etc. come up with nasty headlines about our beloved Keira. Good on ya.

The Star story was a complete lie from start to finish. What have I made up?
I may have misunderstood what you said, but not wilfully so. And you'll notice that I said "it seems", indicating that what followed was my impression of your statements. If you want to correct that impression feel free to do so.

If actors care so little about fame, and all just want to do their job, then they'd be starring in indie films that are viewed by about 9 people at a time. You know it's bollocks.

That's not what I meant about doing a job, though. Obviously if you're starring in high-profile movies, going to premieres and award shows and appearing on the covers of magazines you can't then complain when you get some media attention.

My point was that these latest paparazzi photos were taken while she was working (for Vogue or whatever the magazine is). So she's obliged to do her best to look the way they want her to do in their magazine. And not to put on a show for anyone else.

Btw, for all I know she's just looking like that cause the sun's bothering her. Who knows eh. Not the point. I think general paparazzi pictures are an invasion of privacy and not a lovely thing to trade in. This however, is about as mild as it gets, and I don't see the problem.

I don't see a problem either. I was just objecting to the notion that if you look anything other than happy on a random paparazzi photo it's a sign that you're a stuck-up diva.

[Leonie]

I think we disagree on what constitutes her private life, and on what is part of her job, but generally agree. She doesn't have to put on a happy face. She doesn't have to give them filthy looks either. Is all I'm saying

Thanks all for the first interesting Keira debate in about a year :icon_bigg

[hasselbrad]

As for the photo shoot pics, if any of y'all were surrounded by stylists, art directors, photographers and the others involved in a shoot like this, all arguing over every detail, you'd look like you were passing a stone too.

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[kingdumbass]

Well, I just completed a very lovely and soul-searching porn session....
Now that the pipes are clean, and I have become highly intoxicated, I seem to be viewing this situation in a more realistic light. Keira may or may not have become slightly annoyed with the insane amount of paparazzi that she's had to deal with in the past week, with the Oscars and everything. I personally doubt that I would be able to stop myself from beating the shit out of one of those soulless cretins if I had to deal with them on a constant basis, and the fact that she hasn't lashed out in some way, coupled with the fact that there have been no credible accounts of her being unpleasant to anyone, suggest that she's actually managing pretty well. What, is she supposed to have a fucking smile on her face at all times?

Her personality, to me, doesn't appear to have changed to any drastic degree, other than the fact that she's matured somewhat. In the Ellen interview, for example, she came off quite well. And in a clip I saw from Oprah's Oscar coverage, she was very energetic and funny.

This is the most critical point in her career. She's got a lot to deal with. The Oscar nomination opened up incredible opportunities, and over the next year or so, if she blows them, it's over. The chick's got a lot on her mind.

In short, cut her a fuckin' break!

More than anything else, I'm just interested to see how well she does in her next couple of movies.

Now I"m going to go pass out.

[EmotionSickness]

Celebrities shouldn't bitch about the paparazzi or their fans; that's it. And that's the thing that originally put me off of Natalie Portman. She seems wholly unappreciative of her fanbase, the people that put her where she is today, and she is evasive of the photogs to an extremely ridiculous extent.

Anyway, I think the sun may just be in Keira's face in the first few pictures. Who knows?

I really don't care about Keira's 'relationship' with the press, and, to my knowledge, she hasn't said anything negative about them thus far. It's when she takes the NP route and starts to turn on her fans that I'll be disappointed. Hopefully, that won't happen.

[BrunoJA]

Well, this thread has certainly become depressing...I've noticed that trend around here.

[EmotionSickness]

Why is it depressing? We're just speaking our truths, our opinions. This is a debate that comes up quite often when discussing celebrities.

I, personally, think Keira looks like she's squinting her eyes because of the sun in those photos. But it's silly to pick apart every facial expression she has. Like Leonie, I really do miss the bubbly, smiley Keira a lot (2002-era, I'd say), but that doesn't mean I think she should appear that way all the time -- especially when she's just out and about, not planning on being photographed. It's the smiley Keira in interviews that I miss. She has lost a certain.. spark (for lack of a better term), but part of that could be her simply growing up and maturing. I'll also chalk that up to her not being as wide-eyed and fascinated by the industry as she was in the beginning because, after all, she's not "new" to it anymore. Before, she always had this sort of, "where am I? how did I get here?!" mentality, but I think that has worn off over time, and it's only natural that it would.

As long as she doesn't bitch about fans wanting autographs and such, I don't care.

[Oencross]

So, first and foremost, I didn't go through all the posts, because I'm sure they'll all argue the same points over and over again.

So, none of use can judge how she feels based on pictures. They're pictures. They capture milliseconds. I'm sure no one can explain a feeling for every part of a second. Pictures tell what they want to tell. If the papparazzi take pictures of her looking like a bitch, well, then she is going to look like a bitch. Knowing that all these pictures are simulacra of reality doesn't help anything either. The papparazzi take anywhere between hundreds to thousands of pictures just to capture images of celebrities looking like trash, idiots, and or otherwise. Everyone has bad days.

On that note, everyone that talks about how she "feels" is just part of the peanut gallery of opinions. One member thinks she looks like she is full of her self, others claim that she has been sweet in front of the camera, and gracious at interviews. Does it really matter? Stop analyzing the actions of ONE damn woman. None of us know anything about her, if anyone has met her, let's hear it, and even then, if someone has something to say, it's just one person's opinion, and the truth is that everyone has an opinion, so it's one voice out of a few billion.

Face the facts people. Keira is person whom almost no one on this forum will ever meet. No one can explain how she feels just by examining pictures, watching her films, or watching her interviews. She has a "public persona." She will use and protect that persona to keep her fame and all these pictures are shot for people that become overly engrossed into celebrity lives. Your fan-boy or fan-girl mentality is unwarranted and juvenile.

Let's put it this way... these pictures really don't fucking matter.

Enjoy her movies and find something else you enjoy a hell of a lot more - like life.

[BrunoJA]

I wasn't talking about the topic or even the opinions expressed. I participated in the debate, after all.

I just find the general cynicism a bit depressing.

Stop analyzing the actions of ONE damn woman.

Strange, I thought this was a Keira Knightley forum...which other women shall we discuss instead?

[EmotionSickness]

Some people might have more invested in someone like Keira, Oencross, and you should probably take that into consideration before you make such a harsh statement. Although, I must say, I completely understand where you are coming from.

Who knows why they do, but obviously, some people become wrapped up in the world of certain celebrities for a reason, and whether you agree with that reason or not, it's not really your place to call it juvenile or even baseless, for that matter.

[kingdumbass]

I have nothing to say!

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by kingdumbass

I have nothing to say!

There's a first time for everything.


Personally If I was a celebrity, it'd freak my shit out if someone was following me around a lot waiting for me to pick my butt to get a shot and sell it to a tabloid. But it comes with fame, and sooner or later they all have to realize that.

[BrunoJA]

Yes, it comes with fame, but that doesn't mean they have to be happy about it.