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Old 16-07-2004, 12:38 AM   Attended an OMGWTFKKWBBQ! Officer #21
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King Arthur's failure here has nothing to do with America's taste in film. That's rediculous. Look who the advertising was aimed at. There were problems from day one. I hope the British cast helps the movie do well in Europe, but here it had critic's negative views on it, movies aimed at similar audiences (that had positive reviews), a bad release date, and nearly unknown names. It just had a lot to compete with.
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King Arthur's failure here has nothing to do with America's taste in film. That's rediculous. Look who the advertising was aimed at. There were problems from day one. I hope the British cast helps the movie do well in Europe, but here it had critic's negative views on it, movies aimed at similar audiences (that had positive reviews), a bad release date, and nearly unknown names. It just had a lot to compete with.
Who said it did? I actually think the critics negative reviews really hurt it, and then the fact Disney decided to target it at a new audience (which it really was never suited to target) and a changed released date...basically everything you said...that was the reason it did poorly. Like I said, I suspect the better placement in terms of release, the better reputation of the cast (it's a purely European cast, I believe, with some Dutch and German representative too, if memory serves) and the fact that European critics tend to be less harsh at panning stuff (they will do it, but it takes a lot for them to totally decimate a film like the US critics did to KA) will help it do better. Ahh well...I'll be in a better place to judge when I see it.
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Who said it did? I actually think the critics negative reviews really hurt it, and then the fact Disney decided to target it at a new audience (which it really was never suited to target) and a changed released date...basically everything you said...that was the reason it did poorly. Like I said, I suspect the better placement in terms of release, the better reputation of the cast (it's a purely European cast, I believe, with some Dutch and German representative too, if memory serves) and the fact that European critics tend to be less harsh at panning stuff (they will do it, but it takes a lot for them to totally decimate a film like the US critics did to KA) will help it do better. Ahh well...I'll be in a better place to judge when I see it.
...Yeah, that's what I just said....
And someone (actually I think two people) said it was America's taste in film, I'm just too lazy to scroll back and see who it was.
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Old 16-07-2004, 05:23 AM   #24
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King Arthur's failure here has nothing to do with America's taste in film. That's rediculous. Look who the advertising was aimed at. There were problems from day one. I hope the British cast helps the movie do well in Europe, but here it had critic's negative views on it, movies aimed at similar audiences (that had positive reviews), a bad release date, and nearly unknown names. It just had a lot to compete with.
I agree with Kelsey. Couldn't have been said better. As Ebert wrote: "'King Arthur' is not a bad movie, although it could have been better."

West made that comment.

Actually, international critics can be just as harsh in their reviews.
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I think critics hurt it the most, but there have been movies where critics have rated high :P But the release date was crap, should of been one week earlier in Australia so it could be in school holidays. Its not a kiddy movie, but still.
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Yeah, release date in the US sucked. One week after the 4th? And on a Wednsday? Most people who saw spidey got the week off for the holiday, and were in work during KA's release. But, yeah, when critics give movies bad reviews, than the movie suffers(except for rare occurences, like Van Helsing, Shrek 2, and as of late, probably I, Robot-reviews on the new movie haven't been preety, but somehow better than KA... most likely b/c of Will Smith in it...)
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Old 16-07-2004, 08:08 PM   #27
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Did Shrek 2 really get a bad rating? That surprises me somehow I haven't seen KA yet, but I will, and twill be good
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Did Shrek 2 really get a bad rating? That surprises me somehow I haven't seen KA yet, but I will, and twill be good
Let's put it this way: State of the art graphics, but some critics thought it didn't live up to the expectations of the first. I found it a little boring compared to the original, except for Antonio Bandaras' Puss in Boots character. He was the only reason I saw the movie.
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Old 18-07-2004, 12:43 AM   #29
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Did KA open overseas yet? No figures have come in from outside the US.
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Did KA open overseas yet? No figures have come in from outside the US.
Only release date I know of is the U.K which opens on the 30th. If I'm not mistaked, I believe the Aussie version just came out.
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Old 18-07-2004, 05:07 AM   #31
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i think it opened the 15 in australia.
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...Yeah, that's what I just said....
And someone (actually I think two people) said it was America's taste in film, I'm just too lazy to scroll back and see who it was.
Yeah...I acknowledged I was merely repeating stuff you'd said, since I agreed with it...sheesh.

And yeah, Alby has pointed out Kyle's hidden remark in an earlier post which is sooo wrong.
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i think it opened the 15 in australia.
Yer, it did, i went to see it at my local theatre, it was packed, about 60 percent full, i enjoyed it .
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Old 18-07-2004, 08:47 AM   #34
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What did I put so wrong? oooo was it the bombing thing?...I looked back and thats all I could figure out. Kinda funny if thats it.
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what's the running time on it?
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What did I put so wrong? oooo was it the bombing thing?...I looked back and thats all I could figure out. Kinda funny if thats it.
Nahh...was just taking the piss out of your remark that it's poor US taste...sure you yanks DO lack taste ...but that had nothing to do with KA's poor showing at the Box Office.
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what's the running time on it?
The movie comes out at around 2hrs. But with previews(the best part of movies) it may clock 2 and a half, depending on how many there are.
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Is it true that Keira didn't make her appearance until after the first hour of the film?

EDIT : Nevermind. My lack of effort to look at the other threads before I asked the question got to me before my senses. It's true, which is disappointing.
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It dropped down to #6. Anchorman is now on the fourth spot, while F 9/11 went up to #5. I blame the critics for this. BTW, A cinderella story is on the third spot...
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How A Cinderella Story could beat King Arthur is beyond me. The average teeny-bopper should realize the ugliness inside and commit themselves to the ravishment of Hilary Duff by gorillas in three years' time. Or perhaps the dynamic duo of Hilary and the 'oh-so-dreamy' Chad Michael Murray of One Tree Hill convinces the teeny-bopper to buy a ticket to see a movie based upon this fairy tale now reduced to mere mockery.

But yeah, A Cinderella Story appeals to one crowd, and that crowd does not care for the semi-historical drama of King Arthur, the stupendous slapstick of Anchorman, the political clout of Fahrenheit 9/11, or the comic-book nerdiness of Spider-Man 2.
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