There is a new pope...

Digital_Ice · 19-04-2005, 05:01 PM

...Joseph Ratzinger...

78

oldest man to be elected this century

not italian

ok out of ways of puffing out this thread

bruman · 19-04-2005, 05:06 PM

it's a fucking german facist :@
i hope he dies quiqly

Digital_Ice · 19-04-2005, 05:12 PM

is he?

didnt know that...

fascist? thats a great choice by god aint it...

bruman · 19-04-2005, 05:23 PM

yes
btw
1. he doesnt likes modern tech => no condom surely, abortion,gay-lovers .....
2. he served in the SS in WW2

acliff · 19-04-2005, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruman

it's a fucking german facist :@
i hope he dies quiqly

Watch what you say...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4445279.stm

A repentant facist maybe. Get your facts right.

hasselbrad · 19-04-2005, 05:47 PM

78 years old? Apparently they want to do this again in a few years.

MrPink · 19-04-2005, 05:49 PM

to be fair whats the point of electing an old pope... he's just going to die quickly...

Jacoby · 19-04-2005, 05:52 PM

They don't want a pope to last that long. They want as much change as possible. Sort of like how we have a new President every 4 or 8 years.

Liam · 19-04-2005, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bruman

it's a fucking german facist :@
i hope he dies quiqly

That is one of the more ignorant things I have ever heard.

Surely by your logic, any German who served during the war is a fascist who deserves a quick death. You'll notice that a great proportion of the SS was formed by conscripts, usually manning anti-aircraft or reserve tank formations. There is no evidence anywhere to suggest that this man was involved in anything other than fighting for his country.

Its a good result, methinks. The church should not conform to the needs of society - its laws have been written down for 2000 years and a change in the mentality of the population is no cause for a shift in fundamental doctrine.

Either way - at 78, he can't really expect to accomplish much in the way of change.

Foeni · 19-04-2005, 06:13 PM

When talking about SS, you got to remember that it was splitted. I don't remember if it was two or three, but at least one of them was Waffen-SS (= weapon-SS), who served at the front. They were nothing like the SS in the concentration camps. THEY were brutal. And not joining the war when commanded to could be seen as a traitor of your country. Punished very hard.

The reason the church doesn't want a church to sit more than 10 years approximately, is that it's not really healthy to have the same leader for more than that. It becomes too much of the same.

Leonie · 19-04-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bruman

it's a fucking german facist :@
i hope he dies quiqly

Errr.. how amazingly well-informed and ungeneralising.

Most SS'ers weren't exactly over the moon and eager to join. Rather, they were forced to. It was either that, or death. You're from Belgium, and if you are also from Flanders, I suggest you read De Tweeling by Tessa de Loo (or, if you're not up for reading, rent the film, same title). Might change your perspective a little.

As for the new pope... I can think of people I'd rather have elected pope, but I'm not a Catholic, so I don't really have a right to complain.

Foeni · 19-04-2005, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonie

Most SS'ers weren't exactly over the moon and eager to join. Rather, they were forced to. It was either that, or death.

Well, that isn't exactly right. You weren't forced to join SS. You could be forced to join Wehrmacht.

Flightfreak · 19-04-2005, 06:26 PM

78 and a big conservative, nothing changed just the name and the face.
Things will probably go on like before...

Liam · 19-04-2005, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by foeni

Well, that isn't exactly right. You weren't forced to join SS. You could be forced to join Wehrmacht.

Well yes, but from the Wehrmacht you could be goaded into the SS. For most, it was a step up from regular infantry service. By 1944 the Wehrmacht had slipped in terms of standard of equipment, and training was all down the toilet. Joining an SS regiment ensured a good standard of equipment (at least up until early 1945) with the new StG-44 and FG42 weapons, the best tanks and extended training.

As far as I remember, there was only one SS 'death squad'. The rest were front line combat units with a reputation for fighting exceptionally hard. Sort of the equivalent of a Soviet Guards unit. A regular SS soldier was no more 'evil' than the rank and file Allied soldier.

Some people need to pick up a book and read before they shoot their mouth off.

Foeni · 19-04-2005, 06:44 PM

I think you might be right about going from Wehrmacht to SS, but I don't think that was the usual way to join the SS. In the beginning only the best could join. They were a special trained squad with the only purpose of protecting Hitler. Later on they took more in.

Yes, there was only on 'death squad', I know that for sure. Those are the ones with the scull on their hats.

You are right about the equipment.

I hope you're not referring to me about the book. Course I've read A LOT about world war two. I'm just not very good at expressing it in English :icon_redf

AureaMediocritas · 19-04-2005, 07:02 PM

LetÂ´s just all heil , sorry hail , our new pope ! :icon_err:

Digital_Ice · 19-04-2005, 07:54 PM

lol

so he's german... but not a fascist...???

i dont see what (some) people have againts the germans... certain germans perhaps, but not in general

bruman · 19-04-2005, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Digital_Ice

lol

so he's german... but not a fascist...???

i dont see what (some) people have againts the germans... certain germans perhaps, but not in general

i don't have anything against germans, i even have friends there
but some people aren't in my eyes that "clean" as others

Foeni · 19-04-2005, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruman

i don't have anything against germans, i even have friends there
but some people aren't in my eyes that "clean" as others

But it seems you have something against reading books that'll make you just a little more clever.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liam

Some people need to pick up a book and read before they shoot their mouth off.

So true.

bruman · 19-04-2005, 09:26 PM

why the hell shoud i read a book?
i also don't read books how to work with a pc, but i know lots of it, without to read a book
=> you don't need to read a book to understand stuff

but remember
that is MY opinion

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Foeni Moderator Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 1,897	I think you might be right about going from Wehrmacht to SS, but I don't think that was the usual way to join the SS. In the beginning only the best could join. They were a special trained squad with the only purpose of protecting Hitler. Later on they took more in. Yes, there was only on 'death squad', I know that for sure. Those are the ones with the scull on their hats. You are right about the equipment. I hope you're not referring to me about the book. Course I've read A LOT about world war two. I'm just not very good at expressing it in English :icon_redf __________________ Danish Liberal Youth.

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