Your bronze medal is in the mail...

hasselbrad · 09-10-2007, 02:31 PM

Marion Jones is having to give up her gold medals from the Sydney Olympics. Apparently, they're going to move down the list and award second the gold, third the silver and so on. Problem...those down the list have also been suspended for doping in the meantime, calling into question their legitimacy.
Does it really matter?
Do these allegations (and revelations) affect how you look at the Olympics? Are they forever tainted or do you subscribe to the idea that if you're not cheating, you're not trying?

mongoose · 09-10-2007, 04:31 PM

Haha. I like the titel.
If no one of those who were on the podium then are able to get the medals, then no one should get it. I don't understand why after 7 years those guys have decided to take har medals away.Thats a shame that even the other have been suspended for doping. That is not something they should do, after discovering the doping later.
I can give you another example with this doping, also in Sydney when a romanian gymnast has lost her gold medals. But they have found her "doped" right after the contest. (even it is not true that those substances have helped her win).
So Sydney was a poor Olympics.

Ranman · 09-10-2007, 07:05 PM

Doesn't matter to me. In today's times drugs are a part of life. I don't think they can stop it. There are lots of ex-athletes telling horror stories about what steroids did to them so if any Olympic athletes are stupid enough to use them they deserve what happens to them.

peach · 09-10-2007, 07:46 PM

She was? But don't they do doping tests before the big competitions?

hasselbrad · 09-10-2007, 07:49 PM

They do, but she was using one of these new designer steroids with a masking agent.

Hazzle · 09-10-2007, 11:15 PM

Pointless. They'll never stop it. It's almost not worth punishing dopers these days as they're all at it.

duckula · 10-10-2007, 12:33 AM

Still worth punishing dopers. Even if the majority get away with it doesn't make it any more acceptable. Anyone who does get found gets banned for life. Simple as. That probably will still not be an effective detterent but I don't think this is a case aided by admitting defeat.

Hazzle · 10-10-2007, 12:44 AM

Didn't say it was acceptable. I don't think it's acceptable, however, to punish some people for not using clever enough techniques to dope (and being caught) and let others get away with it because they have a better chemist. Either we get better at catching people or admit defeat.

duckula · 10-10-2007, 12:46 AM

I agree that more needs to be done but it is a perverse logic that justifies letting someone get away with cheating because someone else may be cheating better.

Hazzle · 10-10-2007, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by duckula

I agree that more needs to be done but it is a perverse logic that justifies letting someone get away with cheating because someone else may be cheating better.

Not sure that's any more perverse than punishing a cheat because they cheated worse. If anything that doesn't deter cheating but actually incentivises being better at it.

hasselbrad · 10-10-2007, 12:58 PM

Perhaps they could set up Olympics specifically for the dopers so we can see:

Which performance enhancing drugs are the best.
Just how far the human body can be pushed by science.
How close a woman can get to being a man, whilst still possessing a vagina.

Hazzle · 11-10-2007, 11:39 AM

Now you're talking...

Leonie · 11-10-2007, 11:45 AM

I reckon they should just award the gold medal to whoever comes fourth from now on. They are most likely to be the rightful, doping-free winner of the show.

Hazzle · 11-10-2007, 11:49 AM

There's no such thing as a dope-free athlete these days. Except maybe the one who comes in last.

09-10-2007, 02:31 PM	#1
hasselbrad Senior Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Hill, GA... finally! Civilization! Posts: 4,590	Your bronze medal is in the mail... Marion Jones is having to give up her gold medals from the Sydney Olympics. Apparently, they're going to move down the list and award second the gold, third the silver and so on. Problem...those down the list have also been suspended for doping in the meantime, calling into question their legitimacy. Does it really matter? Do these allegations (and revelations) affect how you look at the Olympics? Are they forever tainted or do you subscribe to the idea that if you're not cheating, you're not trying? __________________ "Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham." I'll try being nicer...if you'll try being smarter.

09-10-2007, 04:31 PM	#2
mongoose Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Romania Posts: 270	Haha. I like the titel. If no one of those who were on the podium then are able to get the medals, then no one should get it. I don't understand why after 7 years those guys have decided to take har medals away.Thats a shame that even the other have been suspended for doping. That is not something they should do, after discovering the doping later. I can give you another example with this doping, also in Sydney when a romanian gymnast has lost her gold medals. But they have found her "doped" right after the contest. (even it is not true that those substances have helped her win). So Sydney was a poor Olympics. __________________ Don't argue with idiots. They drag you to theyr level and beat you with experience. MySpace 100+3 member of keira posse

09-10-2007, 07:05 PM	#3
Ranman KKW's Therapist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Traveling the world Posts: 2,065	Doesn't matter to me. In today's times drugs are a part of life. I don't think they can stop it. There are lots of ex-athletes telling horror stories about what steroids did to them so if any Olympic athletes are stupid enough to use them they deserve what happens to them. __________________ My mother told me every girl wants my body, and moms don't lie.

09-10-2007, 07:49 PM	#5
hasselbrad Senior Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Hill, GA... finally! Civilization! Posts: 4,590	They do, but she was using one of these new designer steroids with a masking agent. __________________ "Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham." I'll try being nicer...if you'll try being smarter.

10-10-2007, 12:58 PM	#11
hasselbrad Senior Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Hill, GA... finally! Civilization! Posts: 4,590	Perhaps they could set up Olympics specifically for the dopers so we can see: Which performance enhancing drugs are the best. Just how far the human body can be pushed by science. How close a woman can get to being a man, whilst still possessing a vagina. __________________ "Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham." I'll try being nicer...if you'll try being smarter.

09-10-2007, 07:46 PM	#4
peach Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 238	She was? But don't they do doping tests before the big competitions?

09-10-2007, 11:15 PM	#6
Hazzle Sponsored Cunt Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5,168	Pointless. They'll never stop it. It's almost not worth punishing dopers these days as they're all at it.

10-10-2007, 12:33 AM	#7
duckula Nobler in the mind. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,214	Still worth punishing dopers. Even if the majority get away with it doesn't make it any more acceptable. Anyone who does get found gets banned for life. Simple as. That probably will still not be an effective detterent but I don't think this is a case aided by admitting defeat.

10-10-2007, 12:44 AM	#8
Hazzle Sponsored Cunt Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5,168	Didn't say it was acceptable. I don't think it's acceptable, however, to punish some people for not using clever enough techniques to dope (and being caught) and let others get away with it because they have a better chemist. Either we get better at catching people or admit defeat.

10-10-2007, 12:46 AM	#9
duckula Nobler in the mind. Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,214	I agree that more needs to be done but it is a perverse logic that justifies letting someone get away with cheating because someone else may be cheating better.

11-10-2007, 11:39 AM	#12
Hazzle Sponsored Cunt Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5,168	Now you're talking...

11-10-2007, 11:45 AM	#13
Leonie Elle Join Date: May 2003 Location: Nottingham Posts: 2,631	I reckon they should just award the gold medal to whoever comes fourth from now on. They are most likely to be the rightful, doping-free winner of the show. __________________

11-10-2007, 11:49 AM	#14
Hazzle Sponsored Cunt Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 5,168	There's no such thing as a dope-free athlete these days. Except maybe the one who comes in last.

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