To be or not to be(the American President) - Page 3

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacoby

So...you think America is in the best standing when you have POOR FUCKING PEOPLE living across the street? Jesus, are you even human?

The poor should be kept in camps. Behind fences with razor wire on top.

Leonie · 19-07-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

The poor should be kept in camps. Behind fences with razor wire on top.

Not very classy.

As for presidential elections, I reckon anyone who isn't Bush is an improvement. That includes EVERYONE. Except Al Gore, cause he bothers me. He seems to have taken hypocrisy on a world tour.

Jacoby · 19-07-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

The poor should be kept in camps. Behind fences with razor wire on top.

Haha, I guess so.

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacoby

Haha, I guess so.

I'm glad someone got the irony.

Keira lover · 19-07-2007, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jacoby

Yeah, because the 2/3 of us who have health insurance in America get top quality service. I actually spent 20 dollars today on a checkup with my doctor. Sure it was a good visit because I've known her my whole life, but 20 dollars just to talk for 5 minutes. That should be covered.

I love how one-sided this summation is. Jesus Christ, it's embarassing.
Also one thing I find incredibly ironic in this post is how you misspelt "hypocrite" when trying to bitch out Hillary Clinton. You actually wrote "Hippocrate" which is much closer to Hippocrates, who is an Ancient Greek Psyciatrist, known as the Father of Medicine and one of the most important figures in Health for his society.
And what a weak argument against Edwards, his hair is expensive... okay. And as you said, "the poor people who love [sic] across the street hate him." So...you think America is in the best standing when you have POOR FUCKING PEOPLE living across the street? Jesus, are you even human?

And Obama wants the "benefit for the'common good' which is NOT how the country was meant to work"? How was it meant to work? So the rich people can fuck the asshole of the poor? That's bullshit.

How old are you anyway? You sound like a fucking 12 year old who just regurgitates what his ignorant, conservative father yells at the T.V. each night...right before he beats his least favorite son.

And learn to write clearly. It's important to be coherent if you want to be President of the Free World. Well...it will be after this current president.

The country was designed based on a capitalist economy: people work for what they have. You work hard, you get ahead. You don't, you end up poor. Simple as that. The gov't was not set up to address social issues and help people who won't help themselves. The government derives it's power from the people and only purpose is to provide for the common defense and enforce and make laws, based on the constitution, which I suggest you reAd. That is it. No welfare, no coddling those who don't work hard.

And, John Edwards lives accross from a trailer park. I saw an interview with many of those people: most hated him. And I couldn't care less about his haircut if he didn't talk about 2 Americas and demonizes the rich who have. for the most part, worked hard to get where they are (Carnegie, Rockeffeler, Bloomberg, Gates,etc...), while he is making the problem worse with these $1,200 (it turns out we had the price wrong) and the huge mansions, etc..

And, it was a typo. Give me a fucking break. I just misspelled (not misspelt) one word. maybe, I should see a psychiatrist? figure it out. looks whose talking.
Welfare is not the gov't job. It is the job of the individual to provide for himself. I will not pay for someone else's surgery or health care if all they do is get high and drunk. I follow the law and work hard. The guy i described doesn't.

Oh, I am 15 years old. I am my father's only true son (not counting his wife's kids), and have 2 sisters. My father is an independent (college-educated, political science major,), my mother is blue blooded (teacher). And, Note, I am not known for compassion. I am known for my far right views and interesting personality, all of which i have developed myself over my lifetime. I am a cold, ruthless, power hungry individual. But what's new? And, I never said that I was fair and balanced, did I. of course it's one sided! It's commentary.

Leonie, I though I was the only one who saw that in Algore.

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

I'm glad someone got the irony.

You know what. That wasn't very classy either.
Leonie, I'm sorry. I wasn't very nice to you there and I apologize.

And, to stay on topic...I don't like John Edwards because he has gotten filthy rich by suing and then fleecing his clients.

Ranman · 19-07-2007, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

You know what. That wasn't very classy either.
Leonie, I'm sorry. I wasn't very nice to you there and I apologize.

And, to stay on topic...I don't like John Edwards because he has gotten filthy rich by suing and then fleecing his clients.

How do you know that? was he ever your lawyer? he ever fleece you? or are you quoting the likes of rush and ann?

Jacoby · 19-07-2007, 06:43 PM

It could be either misspelt or misspelled, keira lover.

And I disagree with your theory on all the rich work hard get what they have. A lot of wealth in America is inherited.

And it's not so easy for the poor/homeless to just work hard an GIIIT-R-Doonee because sometimes it's not their fault where they are. It's not easy to get a job when you don't have a home. If you can't shower do you think you'll do well in an interview? Even the most motivated person can crumble under that kind of stress.

I don't want to argue with you about anything else, though. You clearly think very highly of yourself, and I could be spending my time doing much better things. Like staring at a wall.

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranman

How do you know that? was he ever your lawyer? he ever fleece you? or are you quoting the likes of rush and ann?

It's a well known fact that personal injury attorneys reap the lion's share of settlements, often leaving victims in worse shape than they would have been in had they simply settled.
I'm not taking a swipe at all attorneys, I just happen to view personal injury attorneys with disdain. I've seen the huge settlements gobbled up by law firms while the actual victims were left in dire financial straits once a settlement had been reached.
When Monsanto was found guilty of polluting the environment of Anniston, Alabama, the company was fined $700,000,000.
The average plaintiff, whose health had been damaged beyond repair by PCB contamination, received about $7,000.
Johnny Cochran made $29,000,000.
Jere Beazley, the lead attorney in Alabama made $34,000,000.
Seems equitable to me.

Ranman · 19-07-2007, 07:10 PM

Both my parents are lawyers, dad's a defence attorney and mom's a real estate attorney, both make more than personal injury attorneys. And they work less. most personal injury attorneys do it because they like it. There are easier ways to make money in law.

Leonie · 19-07-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

I'm glad someone got the irony.

I got the irony, I'm just a bit hypersensitive about the subject, I suppose. Seeing as my grandfather nearly died on a number of occasion to keep people away from barbed wired fences, I fail to see the humour of it.

It could be PMS, too.

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Originally Posted by Keira lover

And, it was a typo. Give me a fucking break. I just misspelled (not misspelt) one word. maybe, I should see a psychiatrist? figure it out. looks whose talking.

I learnt in school that misspelt is actually fine. Or maybe I just dreamt that.

Bottom line: British English. Learn to live with it. Your lovely Keira speaks it.

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranman

Both my parents are lawyers, dad's a defence attorney and mom's a real estate attorney, both make more than personal injury attorneys. And they work less. most personal injury attorneys do it because they like it. There are easier ways to make money in law.

I don't begrudge someone earning a living. I just think it's obscene when those who are truly affected receive about one fifth of the settlement. And, it's not the real estate attorneys who are clogging up the legal system with frivolous lawsuits. John Edwards has made a lot more than the average attorney.

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Originally Posted by Leonie

I got the irony, I'm just a bit hypersensitive about the subject, I suppose. Seeing as my grandfather nearly died on a number of occasion to keep people away from barbed wired fences, I fail to see the humour of it.

It could be PMS, too.

Yeah, I kind of figured that. That's why I apologized.:icon_redf

Ranman · 19-07-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

frivolous lawsuits

I want to hear you say that when you get hurt and need a lawyer

Leonie · 19-07-2007, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hasselbrad

Yeah, I kind of figured that. That's why I apologized.:icon_redf

Is the PMS that obvious?

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranman

I want to hear you say that when you get hurt and need a lawyer

Marcia's mother got smashed into by some asshole who fell asleep at the wheel at

30 AM. Now, she's in pain and I fully support her right to sue the prick. I'm talking about the lotto style lawsuits. The guy who sues a friend's grandparents because they didn't warn him adequately that he shouldn't dive in the shallow end of the pool. (he took it all the way to the Supreme Court)
The people who sue Volusia County, Florida because they weren't adequately warned by said county not to dangle their legs in shark infested waters.
People like a friend of mine who sued an ATV maker because he got injured riding one, even though he was far too young to be riding it at the time of the accident.

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Leonie

Is the PMS that obvious?

No, not the PMS. I just realized how rude I was.

However, I do find it odd that you and Marcia are apparently riding the same cycle.

Ranman · 19-07-2007, 09:10 PM

See brad there is the problem, they want to put a cap on all lawsuits. they want to decide who's faking and who's not. I hope marcia's mom is ok but back pain is the most abused complaint. Do you really want them to tell marcia what she can or can't have?

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 09:20 PM

There's no perfect solution. In Alabama, they put a cap of three times actual damages for punitive damages. Of course, this is the state (in)famous for the bad BMW paint job $70,000,000 lawsuit. Three times actual damages is, in my opinion, too low, but I wouldn't have a problem with up to ten at the judge's discretion.
Also, I would be in favor of the state having doctors on some sort of retainer to give an unbiased opinion of someone's physical state.

Ranman · 19-07-2007, 09:24 PM

And whats the cap for someone's death, And the people who are trying to reform the system want a small cap for everything.

hasselbrad · 19-07-2007, 09:28 PM

That's where compromise comes in. The people who want to limit judgements to $1,000 are going to have to compromise with those who want a free for all.

Back on topic...I like Joe Lieberman. Nominate him and I'll vote Democrat.

19-07-2007, 06:43 PM	#48
Jacoby 'The Flapper' Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: New York Posts: 2,647	It could be either misspelt or misspelled, keira lover. And I disagree with your theory on all the rich work hard get what they have. A lot of wealth in America is inherited. And it's not so easy for the poor/homeless to just work hard an GIIIT-R-Doonee because sometimes it's not their fault where they are. It's not easy to get a job when you don't have a home. If you can't shower do you think you'll do well in an interview? Even the most motivated person can crumble under that kind of stress. I don't want to argue with you about anything else, though. You clearly think very highly of yourself, and I could be spending my time doing much better things. Like staring at a wall. __________________ I'm only here to remind Brad to take his protein pills daily.

19-07-2007, 07:10 PM	#50
Ranman KKW's Therapist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Traveling the world Posts: 2,065	Both my parents are lawyers, dad's a defence attorney and mom's a real estate attorney, both make more than personal injury attorneys. And they work less. most personal injury attorneys do it because they like it. There are easier ways to make money in law. __________________ My mother told me every girl wants my body, and moms don't lie.

19-07-2007, 09:10 PM	#57
Ranman KKW's Therapist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Traveling the world Posts: 2,065	See brad there is the problem, they want to put a cap on all lawsuits. they want to decide who's faking and who's not. I hope marcia's mom is ok but back pain is the most abused complaint. Do you really want them to tell marcia what she can or can't have? __________________ My mother told me every girl wants my body, and moms don't lie.

19-07-2007, 09:20 PM	#58
hasselbrad Senior Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Hill, GA... finally! Civilization! Posts: 4,590	There's no perfect solution. In Alabama, they put a cap of three times actual damages for punitive damages. Of course, this is the state (in)famous for the bad BMW paint job $70,000,000 lawsuit. Three times actual damages is, in my opinion, too low, but I wouldn't have a problem with up to ten at the judge's discretion. Also, I would be in favor of the state having doctors on some sort of retainer to give an unbiased opinion of someone's physical state. __________________ "Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham." I'll try being nicer...if you'll try being smarter.

19-07-2007, 09:24 PM	#59
Ranman KKW's Therapist Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Traveling the world Posts: 2,065	And whats the cap for someone's death, And the people who are trying to reform the system want a small cap for everything. __________________ My mother told me every girl wants my body, and moms don't lie.

19-07-2007, 09:28 PM	#60
hasselbrad Senior Citizen Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Hill, GA... finally! Civilization! Posts: 4,590	That's where compromise comes in. The people who want to limit judgements to $1,000 are going to have to compromise with those who want a free for all. Back on topic...I like Joe Lieberman. Nominate him and I'll vote Democrat. __________________ "Purgatory's kind of like the in-betweeny one. You weren't really shit, but you weren't all that great either. Like Tottenham." I'll try being nicer...if you'll try being smarter.

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