High oil prices

[acliff]

It is a well accepted fact that cows farting causes more global warming that us humans ever could...

[Flightfreak]

Yeah, and the farting of the dinosaurs caused a huge explosion what killed them all.

[hasselbrad]

Originally Posted by Flightfreak

Yeah, and the farting of the dinosaurs caused a huge explosion what killed them all.

Actually, it was the raptor with the Zippo that caused the explosion.
Fucking raptors!

[Kelsey]

Originally Posted by hasselbrad

Actually, it was the raptor with the Zippo that caused the explosion.
Fucking raptors!

Hasselbrad, what is gas like in your neck of the woods since Katrina? My dad was telling me in California it rose 18 cents in one day to a record high, and in Georgia it*s up to six dollars. Fuck, I left just at the right time.

[Flightfreak]

Originally Posted by Kelsey

Hasselbrad, what is gas like in your neck of the woods since Katrina? My dad was telling me in California it rose 18 cents in one day to a record high, and in Georgia it*s up to six dollars. Fuck, I left just at the right time.

Lol, the Pertol is still more expensive in France.

[hasselbrad]

Originally Posted by Kelsey

Hasselbrad, what is gas like in your neck of the woods since Katrina? My dad was telling me in California it rose 18 cents in one day to a record high, and in Georgia it*s up to six dollars. Fuck, I left just at the right time.

Regular's hovering around $3.00 a gallon. I lucked out and filled up with premium at $2.999 a gallon the other night. Georgia's woes were caused by a rush on the pumps and some unscrupulous station owners. In Stockbridge, which is south of Atlanta, a station was charging $6.07/gallon for premium.
Sonny Perdue, the governor of Georgia, has stepped in and is forgiving $0.15 a gallon in taxes for the time being and they are going after the price gougers. Florida has legislation that prevents stations from raising prices without showing just cause, i.e. invoices with a cost increase.
And Flightfreak's right, it's still more expensive in France.

[Keira lover]

The problem in the US is not the price of a barrel of oil. It is the taxes the new dem congress puts on a single barrel of oil.

[Ranman]

Originally Posted by Keira lover

The problem in the US is not the price of a barrel of oil. It is the taxes the new dem congress puts on a single barrel of oil.

What do you mean the dem's, only the president can raise taxes. congress can't. The problem is the President's oil buddies are rapping us while they can. When Clinton was prez, they raised oil prices and he appointed someone to look into it and within a week oil prices were down.

[Keira lover]

Originally Posted by Ranman

What do you mean the dem's, only the president can raise taxes. congress can't. The problem is the President's oil buddies are rapping us while they can. When Clinton was prez, they raised oil prices and he appointed someone to look into it and within a week oil prices were down.

The president doesn't have the power to levy taxes, that's the legislature's job. My friend, I've read the constitution

[Ranman]

I remember senoir bush saying no new taxes, I believe he raised them and broke his promise

[Keira lover]

Originally Posted by Ranman

Hippies? what decade are you in?
There are no hippies around here.
Blame goes to the man in charge
and that's your boy George Bush
Someone should kick him in the nads
and wake him up

Oil prices are high because of taxes, and taxes can only be levied by Congress. So, it has nothing to do with Bush.

Article I: US Constitution

Section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes,
Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for
the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;
but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform through-
out the United States;
....


Pres. George H.W. Bush said, "Read My lips, No New Taxes." He was wrong, they were needed. Congress passed the taxes. Bush 41 signed them into law. That is how it works. They must pass Congress to reach the president's desk. If the president vetoes it, the legislature needs a 2/3 majority to override the veto. That is very rare. You need 67 Senators, and it depends on the population of the country in the house.

[Ranman]

So when did GW sign all these new taxes you idiot? I don;'t remember him doing it. Hell he hasn't even had to use his veto power on any bill put forward by the congress for his first 6 years. The oil company's are making record profits from the high prices. I can't think of his name but the CEO of one of the big one recently retired and got a billion dollar retirement package.

[Keira lover]

First thing: Oil prices have nothing to do with Bush. It is based on the price per barrel, refinery capacity, and taxes. It is taxes. The lowest taxes on oil, for instance, is in D.C. Bush, surprisingly to the left, has one of the greenest homes of all D.C. politicians (solar, wind, etc..). Algore uses twice the amount of energy the avg. American uses in a year in one month.

Only Congress has the power to levy taxes, although the president can, of course recommend them. (article I, section 8, US constitution) Individual states can add taxes on top of the federal taxes, as well, if they so wish.

The Dems in office have so far: raised the minumum wage, their salaries, and of course, taxes. They also spend a lot.

The GOP: lowered taxes, spent a lot.

Now, unless you are a democrat, this would make the most sense:

Lower taxes-people have more money.-They spend some of that money on stuff-sales taxes-gas taxes-bills

u lower taxes, people part with a dollar easier. then the money is spent elsewhere. more tax revenuse are collected. the gov't takes in more. it worked in NYC, under Rudy. it works.

Dems-high taxes. people have less-spend less-business go under-depression

low taxes-good
high taxes-bad

Oh, and Long Island is not a Republican stronghold. trust me. Every long islander i know is a lib

o, and those taxes are not really talked about. if we knew have the bills passed, we wouldn't be able to keep up. and, yes they are profiting. the have to charge more because of the taxes to profit. that is their job: make money. It is not evil. it is not wrong. it is business. they have to support their families. they are in business for the sole purpose of making money. as is every person in any business in any country with a free market. in a socialism/communism ,they are working so they are not killed. And, those high profits. the supply of oil is finite. it's demand is infinite. that equals big profit.

[Ranman]

Will You Shut The Fuck Up You Idiot!

[Flightfreak]

Originally Posted by Keira lover

The problem in the US is not the price of a barrel of oil. It is the taxes the new dem congress puts on a single barrel of oil.

The more than doubled price per barrel since 2000 on the international market has nothing to do with it?

[Keira lover]

Originally Posted by Ranman

Will You Shut The Fuck Up You Idiot!

You first. you dont even know how the legislative process works until a 15 year old explained it. And you can vote? Go to B&N, and buy a pocket constitution. AND READ IT!!!!!!!!!!!

and, to flightfreak, taxes are based on the price/barrel. But the more expensive per barrel, the more taxes collected.


P.S.: Ranman, i have proved my point. you do not have a clue about what you are talking about, otherwise, you would present an argument, not wish i would just shut up.

[Ranman]

Originally Posted by Keira lover

You first. you dont even know how the legislative process works until a 15 year old explained it. And you can vote? Go to B&N, and buy a pocket constitution. AND READ IT!!!!!!!!!!!

.

I have read it asshole. and I don't think you actually read it because I googled some of the crap you wrote before and there it was word for word. You know idiots like you are the reason the rest of the world hate America. And I'm willing to bet most people here at KKW laugh at the crap you post.

[Keira lover]

i quoted it, hence the odd spelling, weird capitalizations, etc....

Article I: US Constitution

Section 8
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes,
Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for
the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States;
but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform through-
out the United States;

You think I right like this. I was trying to make a point.

And the world hates America because we are the world's only superpower. It's the same reason people hate Bill Gates: Envy

[Ranman]

Then how did Bush sr raise taxes then dickhead?

[Keira lover]

economists believed that it was necessary (wether it was or not is up in the air). Congress passed them into law, and the President heeded the advice of his advisors and signed them into law. A president can not legally propose legislation. He can sort of convince a congressman to start a bill, however.


It is not Bush Sr.

41st president= George Herbert Walker Busher
43rd= George Walker Bush