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Old 25-07-2004, 01:54 PM   Senior Registered Member #1
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Should Health Care be Socialized?

In the US we do not have socialized health care. In the US or any country for that matter, should the government put aside money to set up a free health care system? Would a social health care system be as good as a private one or even better?

I ask this because this week I had a medical exam at a free clinic for the DOD(Department of Defense). I noticed a few differences between the free center and the doctors office I usually go to.

For you people who have socialized health care, how is your system?

Which one do you think is better socialized or private?

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In the US we do not have socialized health care. In the US or any country for that matter, should the government put aside money to set up a free health care system? Would a social health care system be as good as a private one or even better?

I ask this because this week I had a medical exam at a free clinic for the DOD(Department of Defense). I noticed a few differences between the free center and the doctors office I usually go to.

For you people who have socialized health care, how is your system?

Which one do you think is better socialized or private?
The NHS is awesomeness, it just needs modernising and some throwing of cash at it...sadly governments give with one hand and taketh away with the other...but yeah, I'd say our healthcare system, on the whole, does remarkably well on what little investment it gets. I think a lot of the staff are more in it for the caring aspect than the paycheck too, as they get paid so little...I think when you're earning more money you're more inclined to see patients as customers...whether that's good or not I'll leave you to decide.
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Old 25-07-2004, 03:26 PM   First Class Member Officer #3
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Free Health care is fantastic! I love the NHS, I'd be dead without it (quite literally). Free Health care! Wooo!

But truthfully, I think the US should have free healthcare, how much would you have to pay for treatment for a broken leg?
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Old 25-07-2004, 03:39 PM   Senior Registered Member #4
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Thumbs up US health

I'm no expert on healthcare, and my view may be biased because I live in a huge city. My mom is a nurse in the ER at the biggest trauma center in Texas, and I myself have visited several times. The American healthcare system is built around health insurance. For certain unhealthy individuals, this insurance can become quite pricy, just like auto insurance. The one difference I have learned about is the wait associated with receiving healthcare. I'm not sure of statistics, but across the pond, people have to wait a lot more than in the US for non-emergency injuries. In America, receiving treatment is virtually automatic. I'm OK with it the way it is. For lower income individuals, there are different ways to pay that take a lot off of the price. Again, my perception may be clouded.
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Old 25-07-2004, 10:37 PM   #5
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As an old-fashioned Tory, I think the NHS would be much better off if we stopped paying for it from the government down and started paying from the patient up.

In 2002-03, central government spent about £50 billion on healthcare. That's about the same as it received from VAT (a little less, but close enough).

If we abolished £50 billion worth of taxes, all taxpayers would be about £1,500 better off.

Then we could all start to pay for our own medical treatment on the NHS on demand.

I think that health in Britain is another one of those areas where people think that the socialists, led by Clement Attlee after the war, did us all a great deed. Yet at last people are starting to realise that it's not good enough to preach about the principles of the NHS, because nobody cares about ideology if they're laying on the floor in a hospital waiting room because your hospital can't afford any beds.


Well, that's what I think!
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Government down thanks, the NHS has always served me and mine well with a minimum of bullshit. I'm all about helping the helpless.
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Old 25-07-2004, 10:39 PM   Senior Registered Member #7
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I don't think the US can afford free health care right now, considering the shape of the economy and the size of the national debt.
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Old 25-07-2004, 10:40 PM   Senior Registered Member #8
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One one hand: I do not think it should be socialized. The quality of my health has to do with the quality of my health care provider. The quality of my health care provider is determined with how well it competes with its peers. That competition is created by the advantages of a private or capitalized system.


On the other hand: I believe everybody has the right to be in good health and should not be denied care due to lack of money.
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