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Old 01-08-2011, 02:15 AM   #283
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This is a link to part one of five youtube videos of Lord Moncton talking about the origins and linkages of the "GlobalWarming/Marxist" community. You should enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyMY...eature=related

This is a link to part one of five youtube videos of Lord Moncton talking about the origins and linkages of the "GlobalWarming/Marxist" community. You should enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyMY...eature=related

This is a link to part one of five youtube videos of Lord Moncton talking about the origins and linkages of the "GlobalWarming/Marxist" community. You should enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyMY...eature=related

This is a link to part one of five youtube videos of Lord Moncton talking about the origins and linkages of the "GlobalWarming/Marxist" community. You should enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyMY...eature=related

This is a link to part one of five youtube videos of Lord Moncton talking about the origins and linkages of the "GlobalWarming/Marxist" community. You should enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyMY...eature=related

This is a link to part one of five youtube videos of Lord Moncton talking about the origins and linkages of the "GlobalWarming/Marxist" community. You should enjoy this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHyMY...eature=related
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Dave
Your position certainly depends a lot on this guy. Since I've finally noticed who this clown is, let's talk about him.

"Lord Monckton" is a politician. Now in any reasonable science debate that's pretty much all that needs to be said. But since this debate has been anything but...

"Lord Monckton" has no science background. His degrees are in Classics (whatever that is) and Journalism.

"Lord Monckton" is not even a Lord. "The House of Lords has taken the unprecedented step of publishing a "cease and desist" letter on its website demanding that Lord Christopher Monckton stop claiming to be a member of the upper house."

"LordMonckton" is a pathological liar. You two are peas in a pod. This guy routinely makes up statements prominent scientists never made.

Monckton: "But the solar physicists...attribute 69% of all the recent global warming to the sun. The International Astronomical Union in 2004 held a symposium on it. They concluded that that was the case. They said we're now going to get global cooling..." Minnesota 2009
Scientists he cites:"I can assure you there is not such a formal position endorsed by the IAU. Let alone any claim from IAU that suggests that global warming can be explained by solar variability." Valentin Martinez Pillet, President of the International Astronomical Union

Monckton: "They [the NOAA] rely only on data from ships dropping canvas buckets down as they randomly pass across the oceans, and pulling up some water and sticking a thermometer in." Minnesota 2009
Scientists he cites: "Mr. Monckton's statement to the effect that we used temperature measurements of seawater gathered by dragging canvas buckets through the ocean are completely false." Sydney Levitus (email correspondance with John Abraham)

Monckton: "Dr. Craig Idso has collected papers by almost 1000 scientists worldwide, nearly all of which demonstrate the influence of the Medieval Warm Period (MWP) and show it was at least as warm as, and in most instances warmer than, the present." The Climate of Freedom
Scientists he cites: "No, I do not think there is evidence that the world was warmer than today in Medieval times." Dr. Raymond Bradley
"We do not believe that our work disproves” human-induced global warming." Dr. Rosanne D’Arrigo. "Most global temperature reconstructions suggest that on average, the MWP was not warmer than today. Regardless, a warm MWP doesn't disprove the fact that humans are changing climate presently." Dr. Jessica Tierney

Monckton: "No ocean heat buildup for 50 years" (citing Domingues) Minnesota 2009
Scientists he cites: "We have found that the upper 700 m of the global ocean has warmed from 1950-2003." Catia Domingues

Monckton: "The population of polar bears has increased dramatically since the 1940s and 1950s. Somewhere between 2 and 5 times, we don't know exactly but it's certainly a huge increase in polar bear population. Hardly as you would think the profile of a species in imminent threat of extinction." Minnesota 2009
Scientists he cites: "I do not believe that Christopher Monckton has read my work, or recent work of prominent polar bear biologists that is easily obtained thru Google." Charles Monnett

Monckton: "Warm: more polar bears. Cool: fewer polar bears." (referencing Norris et al 2002) Minnesota 2009
Scientists he cites: "The report Polar Bears at Risk reviews the threats faced by the world's 22,000 polar bears and highlights that human-induced climate change is the number one long-term threat to the survival of the world's largest terrestrial carnivores." Kathleen Sullivan (co-author of Norris et al 2002)

And I cut out half the examples from this one report alone. It's easy to see why the House of Lords is offended. What an embarassment...
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