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Fancyman 21-11-2004 11:19 PM

Respecting your lover
 
There have been several posts regarding sex in this forum, and quite frankly they have disgusted me thus far. Most of these posts have come from one indivdual, who I believe doesn't know shit about sex. Making a women "melt" is a lot more simple than watching porn and reading articles. Try watching your lover's expressions and reading her emotions.

Now I really believe this individual is lost and confused. This person's posts are merely a cry for help.

Let me help you. If you want great sex, and you want to perform great oral sex, just pay your woman some attention. I didn't have to watch videos to learn how to please a woman. Talk to her, ask her questions, listen to what she has to say. They want you to succeed, they want you to learn.

Then again if you're only interested in the physical aspect of sex, I have no further advice for you, just pity. Believe me, sex with a woman you love is so much greater than anything you pull out of a porn.

I guess what I'm trying to say is just respect your lover. Sex comes naturally after that. Let it be a learning experience, not some lustfull physical act. Honestly, from the posts I've been reading, you don't deserve to have sex and I hope the women in your life both real and imaginary let you go and find a man with some respect. You sir, need to earn that penis of yours.

Donnie Dorko 21-11-2004 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Fancyman
There have been several posts regarding sex in this forum, and quite frankly they have disgusted me thus far. Most of these posts have come from one indivdual, who I believe doesn't know shit about sex. Making a women "melt" is a lot more simple than watching porn and reading articles. Try watching your lover's expressions and reading her emotions.

True story. Try being hmmm...a decent guy? If the individual who Fancyman is referring to is the one I think it is, then I know the girl I love wouldn't look twice at him, and she is the most fantabulous girl in the world.

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Now I really believe this individual is lost and confused. This person's posts are merely a cry for help.

Let me help you. If you want great sex, and you want to perform great oral sex, just pay your woman some attention. I didn't have to watch videos to learn how to please a woman. Talk to her, ask her questions, listen to what she has to say. They want you to succeed, they want you to learn.
Again, true enough. The girl I'm in love with actually thinks its very sexy that I'm not as experienced as her and she can show me what she likes. I mean true, we've only really talked about it at this stage, but still, I think a lot of guys forget there is a willingness on the part of many woman, maybe even a desire, to be a "teacher".

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Then again if you're only interested in the physical aspect of sex, I have no further advice for you, just pity. Believe me, sex with a woman you love is so much greater than anything you pull out of a porn.

I guess what I'm trying to say is just respect your lover. Sex comes naturally after that. Let it be a learning experience, not some lustfull physical act. Honestly, from the posts I've been reading, you don't deserve to have sex and I hope the women in your life both real and imaginary let you go and find a man with some respect. You sir, need to earn that penis of yours.
Hahaha, cutting, but true. I think it's easy to forget that the core of any successful relationship has to be friendship, it's something to build on, it's something deeper and more meaningful. Respect and the connection you share is crucial. I like that I'm friends with the girl I'm in love with, and that whatever happens, I will always have that.

MeggieHoops 22-11-2004 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Donnie Dorko
Again, true enough. The girl I'm in love with actually thinks its very sexy that I'm not as experienced as her and she can show me what she likes. I mean true, we've only really talked about it at this stage, but still, I think a lot of guys forget there is a willingness on the part of many woman, maybe even a desire, to be a "teacher".

Yeah, I like that idea alot. I looove the thought of teaching a guy what to do.

But, that said, it all depends on if the guy is actually honest with you that he's not very experienced. Because some guys tend to lie about shit like that.

qzx00 22-11-2004 03:41 AM

While I agree with most of the stuff posted on this thread, no matter how much a guy cares about a girl there is no way he is 100% focued to her needs at all times. You would be lying if you claimed that. There are sometimes where you just want to get off as fast as possible and I think most girls understand that. There are sometimes where you'll have a girl that's just not in the mood but she'll get on all 4's and let you go to work. It works both ways in a good relationship, if you take care of a girl and focus on her needs and put in your work, she should let you have a day off and blow a quick load.

ryan 22-11-2004 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by MeggieHoops
Yeah, I like that idea alot. I looove the thought of teaching a guy what to do.

But, that said, it all depends on if the guy is actually honest with you that he's not very experienced. Because some guys tend to lie about shit like that.

oh please. :icon_roll

Foeni 22-11-2004 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by MeggieHoops
Yeah, I like that idea alot. I looove the thought of teaching a guy what to do.

But, that said, it all depends on if the guy is actually honest with you that he's not very experienced. Because some guys tend to lie about shit like that.

If a guy isn't honest about it, the girl will be disappointed. So would I if a girl told me she was very experienced. Plus honesty is crucial in every aspect of a relationship.

MeggieHoops 22-11-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan
oh please. :icon_roll

Oh shut up. :)

It just bothers me that people are such insecure pricks that they'd tell a lie like that just to make themselves look better. In a relationship, your partner should love you no matter what, no matter how much experience you've got, because sex shouldn't be the basis to the relationship anyway.

Donnie Dorko 22-11-2004 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by qzx00
While I agree with most of the stuff posted on this thread, no matter how much a guy cares about a girl there is no way he is 100% focued to her needs at all times. You would be lying if you claimed that. There are sometimes where you just want to get off as fast as possible and I think most girls understand that. There are sometimes where you'll have a girl that's just not in the mood but she'll get on all 4's and let you go to work. It works both ways in a good relationship, if you take care of a girl and focus on her needs and put in your work, she should let you have a day off and blow a quick load.

Bollocks. Utter bollocks. If you want to "blow a quick load", go have a wank, but sex should be mutually enjoyable. Personally I prefer giving than receiving and it actually turns me on to know that I turn a girl on. Makes the whole experience that much more fun.

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Originally Posted by MeggieHoops
It just bothers me that people are such insecure pricks that they'd tell a lie like that just to make themselves look better.

Ouch. Brutal, but fair. She's right, why lie?

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In a relationship, your partner should love you no matter what, no matter how much experience you've got, because sex shouldn't be the basis to the relationship anyway.
True story. Honesty, trust, respect, loyalty and obviously love are the essential elements to a relationship. If you're missing honesty and trust, then what's the point?

ryan 22-11-2004 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Donnie Dorko
Ouch. Brutal, but fair. She's right, why lie?


she's making a direct jab at me.

the idea behind this thread was about relationships.

she's acting as if we were in one...like i owed her the truth within 48 hours of first talking to her (which was when i told her the lie she's blown out of proportion).

Donnie Dorko 22-11-2004 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan
she's making a direct jab at me.

the idea behind this thread was about relationships.

she's acting as if we were in one...like i owed her the truth within 48 hours of first talking to her (which was when i told her the lie she's blown out of proportion).

I see. Still, I've never seen the point of lying about that sort of thing at all, to anyone, relationship or not. I suppose I tend to be a very open, honest person, but then maybe it's judgemental of me to expect everyone to be like that. It's clearly a lie that's hurt her a lot so maybe she too expects everyone to be open and honest *shrugs*.

Ahh well, let's not let this descend into personal spats, eh? People'll only get hurt.

Foeni 22-11-2004 04:11 PM

A major problem is, that there is absolutely no status in beeing virgin. There's nothing wrong with it, but it's rather normal that guys talk about the girls they have or would like to have sex with. And if a bloke haven't had sex yet, he can't take part in the discussion. Therefore a lot of guys start pretending like they've done it a thousand times and really masters the skill. But reality is, they're nervous like hell. What if I can't live up to her expectations? What if I can't get it stand? Questions like that. I just think that that's just the way men are. They simply have to compare themselves with eachother. Also in sexual matters.

Donnie Dorko 22-11-2004 05:44 PM

Yeah, that may be the way society expects men to be, but that's just sad. I've never lied about my sexual prowess or experience, I've never felt the need to. Incidentally I am still a virgin, but it doesn't bother me one bit, I still feel able to comment on sex, because I've not been living under a rock.

Foeni 22-11-2004 06:30 PM

Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I never lie about me being a virgin, and I can still comment on sex. Course there ARE other kinds of sex than just intercourse (hope that's the English word for it :p).

ryan 22-11-2004 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Foeni
Yeah, I feel exactly the same way. I never lie about me being a virgin, and I can still comment on sex. Course there ARE other kinds of sex than just intercourse (hope that's the English word for it :p).

yes, that's the correct word for it. :p
there's oral and anal...but both are sex in my book, just not the kind of sex that you lose your virginity with. in my opinion, that's a thing lost only through intercourse.

well, there is the exception if you're gay, then you can't really lose it through vaginal sex since you don't like teh vagina, but you get the main point of what i'm saying.

Foeni 22-11-2004 08:52 PM

Good ;)
I totally agree with you about losing virginity. I have tried oral, but I still feel and am virgin.

ryan 22-11-2004 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Foeni
Good ;)
I totally agree with you about losing virginity. I have tried oral, but I still feel and am virgin.

you had a lot to look forward to still.
the vagina's much better than the mouth, imo.

Foeni 22-11-2004 09:28 PM

Oh, I am looking forward to it, trust me...

Fancyman 23-11-2004 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ryan
you had a lot to look forward to still.
the vagina's much better than the mouth, imo.

Yes it is

qzx00 23-11-2004 04:06 AM

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Bollocks. Utter bollocks. If you want to "blow a quick load", go have a wank, but sex should be mutually enjoyable. Personally I prefer giving than receiving and it actually turns me on to know that I turn a girl on. Makes the whole experience that much more fun.
Yes, as I said this is the case most of the time but if you have a good girlfriend there are days when she isn't in the mood or you're short on time or what ever the reason when she will let you just beat it up. I can have a wank anytime I want, it's nice to have a girlfriend that will take care of it for you. I don't think there is anything wrong with that and it doesn't mean your lazy and don't care.

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the vagina's much better than the mouth, imo.
Yes, I am a big fan of the vagina too! The mouth and hand is fun to go back to every so often too. A lot of girls think that since they are giving sex they can forget about hand and oral but guys still like that as well every so often.

ryan 23-11-2004 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by qzx00
Yes, as I said this is the case most of the time but if you have a good girlfriend there are days when she isn't in the mood or you're short on time or what ever the reason when she will let you just beat it up. I can have a wank anytime I want, it's nice to have a girlfriend that will take care of it for you. I don't think there is anything wrong with that and it doesn't mean your lazy and don't care.



Yes, I am a big fan of the vagina too! The mouth and hand is fun to go back to every so often too. A lot of girls think that since they are giving sex they can forget about hand and oral but guys still like that as well every so often.

i'm only a fan of the hand for foreplay...i think its really only necessary before the oral or vaginal business.


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