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frodo1511
20-09-2004, 11:01 PM
Well, I just got done reading the (semi-finished) script to Jurassic Park IV, and I have to say it has a shit load of plot twist's and suprises in it. This got me thinking: what is the best suprise/plot twist in a movie or videogame?
Here are my top favorites for both:

Movies:
1. Finding out Darth Vader is Luke Skywalker's father in The Empire Strikes Back,
2. Seeing Gandalf return from the dead in The Two Towers, and
3. Watching the White House blow up in Independence day.
(How original...)

Games:
1. Finding out about the Flood in Halo,
2. Screaming when Samus takes of her helmat in Metroid, only to find out that he is actually a she :icon_surp
3. Playing as Adult Link in Zelda: OoT.

Any others?

Dyce_Blue
20-09-2004, 11:08 PM
The twist in "Matchstick Men" wasn't bad. At least it was original.

The Sixth Sense plot twist is my favorite by far though...

As for games...

...without a doubt, the twist from Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty is the best twist ever in a video game. I sat there speechless for an hour...

In a distant, distant second, the part (I think stage 6) in Sonic and Knuckles when Knuckles saves Sonic from death, and you actually believe that Knuckles was dead. What has happened to quality Sonic games like that?

Richard
20-09-2004, 11:15 PM
I can't think of any best at the moment, but I'll name my worst for the time being.

"Identity". In the end of the movie when we finally see who the actual "killer" was. Pissed me the right off... no way that kid could have done any of that shit. Good movie, until the ending.

That's weird, I was expecting to name more...

The Black Rider
20-09-2004, 11:40 PM
Nothing beats The Crying Game. Nothing.

Diabolique (the original) and The Wicker Man had great plot twists, too.

frodo1511
20-09-2004, 11:49 PM
...without a doubt, the twist from Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty is the best twist ever in a video game. I sat there speechless for an hour...



Dear god, I HATED that twist. MGS2 was SOOOOO good until they screwed with the plot, as well as having the player control Raiden instead of Snake. Pissed me off.

Jacoby
20-09-2004, 11:50 PM
Metal Gear, Metal Gear Solid, Metal Gear Solid: Sons of Liberty, Metal Gear...

I can't really think of movies right now.

Spire
20-09-2004, 11:57 PM
Movies:
- The Usual Suspects, of course.
- Resident Evil had a great ending too.

Games:
- Xenogears had a crazy plot, one of the best in any game, book, or movie.
- Metal Gear Solid had some nice twists in it, MGS2's were a bit over-the-top.
- Final Fantasy VI had one of the best mid-game twists ever. Kefka is so evil... :)
- Chrono Cross had some interesting twists as well.

frodo1511
21-09-2004, 12:04 AM
Speaking of Metal Gear, I completly forgot about Psycho Mantis in the Playstation version. I almost died when he read my mind, saying, "you like Castlevania, don't you?"

That, and the part when the licker jumped through the two-way mirror in Resident Evil 2. I almost crapped my pants out of fright. To this day, I've lured 3 of my friends into that same situation, only to see them wet themselves.

Spire
21-09-2004, 12:22 AM
That, and the part when the licker jumped through the two-way mirror in Resident Evil 2. I almost crapped my pants out of fright. To this day, I've lured 3 of my friends into that same situation, only to see them wet themselves.

That's funny, because that's taken verbatim from a recent issue of EGM. Didn't think you'd get caught did ya? Don't try to worm your way out of this one, coincidences like that don't happen often, not in your case.

Narg
21-09-2004, 12:30 AM
^ rofl, owned by Spire, sit down frodo, sit the fuck down :P.

CFC
21-09-2004, 01:01 AM
had to edit picture too little bandwidth

frodo1511
21-09-2004, 01:14 AM
That's funny, because that's taken verbatim from a recent issue of EGM. Didn't think you'd get caught did ya? Don't try to worm your way out of this one, coincidences like that don't happen often, not in your case.

Damn, didn't think someone would have a 3 year-old issue of EGM lying around to see. GG, spire.
Seriously, though, that's where I got the idea from, and I HAVE scared 3 of my friends in that same spot, so I'm not lying.

Dyce_Blue
21-09-2004, 02:17 AM
I've got a 3 year old Gamepro lying around that says: "Metal Gear Solid 2 has a very central twist that will make you remember why you first started playing games in the first place."

Talk about digging up facts...

Spire
21-09-2004, 02:33 AM
Damn, didn't think someone would have a 3 year-old issue of EGM lying around to see. GG, spire.
Seriously, though, that's where I got the idea from, and I HAVE scared 3 of my friends in that same spot, so I'm not lying.

Hmmm, I'm sure you coaxed exactly three friends into playing the game that far in, all while you watched. Not that you need me to discredit your word... I'm well-versed in EGM lore, and your quote was brought to my attention by another member actually, although I remembered it after I read your post again.

And Dyce, Halo's plot your averge sci-fi fare, nothing special. The Flood entrance was wholly unoriginal, and rather anti-climactic.

Liam
21-09-2004, 09:43 AM
Unreal 2 - Finding out that Aida dies before your character scores.

Sarah
21-09-2004, 09:57 AM
"Identity". In the end of the movie when we finally see who the actual "killer" was. Pissed me the right off... no way that kid could have done any of that shit. Good movie, until the ending.



lol did you not ''get'' that movie? It was all in that nutter's head! Anything can happen in your mind, dude!

--

As for the first post, Jurassic Park IV? Where can I read this?

hasselbrad
21-09-2004, 11:48 AM
The Usual Suspects and The Sixth Sense would be my all time movie twists. However, I've not seen The Crying Game, but I know what happens.

Video game twists would have to be Pac-Man...when he eats the blinking dot and can eat the ghosts. It scares them so much...they turn blue!
;)

Narg
21-09-2004, 02:42 PM
Unreal 2 - Finding out that Aida dies before your character scores.

lmfao.

Star Wars Knights of the Old republic, when u find out ure the bad guy.. i meen, i caught on pretty early, but that game is fucking awesome. 2nd best RPG ever.

Also in Fallout 2, when you find out all about the enclave, and the fact that most of the vaults were 'fake' 'placebo's'.

and for movies, Fight club, and sixth sense.

Richard
21-09-2004, 09:06 PM
lol did you not ''get'' that movie? It was all in that nutter's head! Anything can happen in your mind, dude!

I got the whole split personality thing, still was a weird movie. :icon_redf

DragonRat
22-09-2004, 11:35 PM
The Usual Suspects probably had the greatest plot twist of any movie in recent memory.

As for video games, I'd probably rate Aeris Gainsborough's death in Final Fantasy VII to be tops. Another one was Fei Fong Wong's true identity in Xenogears.

frodo1511
22-09-2004, 11:40 PM
Yeah, Aeris' death in FFVII came as quite a shock to me. Well then, on the subject of deaths, I almost cried when Meryll died in MGS. Still brings a tear to me eye.

Spire
23-09-2004, 04:37 AM
The Usual Suspects probably had the greatest plot twist of any movie in recent memory.

As for video games, I'd probably rate Aeris Gainsborough's death in Final Fantasy VII to be tops. Another one was Fei Fong Wong's true identity in Xenogears.

Xenogears had a ton of interesting twists. I was kinda shocked when he wents beserk at the beginning of the game and blew up Lahan.

Dyce_Blue
23-09-2004, 03:31 PM
I hope that Spire-o the Dragon hasn't ruined any games for anyone by divulging the twists...

Spire
23-09-2004, 06:20 PM
Hey, I'm not the one who told everyone that Fei had multiple personalites. The Lahan incident happens within the first 45 minutes of the game, not like I'm ruining hte ending or anything.

The Black Rider
24-09-2004, 12:10 AM
Usual Suspects...I forgot about that one. Genius.

I had the FF7 climax spoiled for me before I got there, but I was still upset about it.