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kilyncw
12-08-2004, 06:04 PM
do most girls like the sweet, tell me i'm beautiful all the time and send me flowers just because he wants to, guy

or the i know he loves me but just doesn't show it kinda guy.

do girls even like poetry?
is it true that nice guys finish last? (does this mean i have to kiss her with my fist)

girls are confusing. haha.

it is just my curiosity.
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Mandy
12-08-2004, 06:26 PM
Welcome to KKW, sir. :)

I think all of those are good qualities for a guy. Guys that do nice things for no reason.

I never date guys that:

1. Don't have a car
2. Live with their parents
3. Say "no" to partying (What's with that)
4. Hate their parents
5. Don't have a job

If you're not in any of those numbers, you're game :)

kilyncw
12-08-2004, 06:32 PM
that's good to know, but i'm glad not all girls have your same dating rules.

i don't have a car at the moment because i thrashed it about 2 months ago, i am however in the process of getting a new one, haha.

and also when i am done with my current situation i will be living with my mother and stepdad while i go to school.

its cool though cause my gf has no problem with that as long as she can see me.

i just like getting different opinions from different girls.
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Richard
12-08-2004, 07:06 PM
Welcome to KKW, sir. :)

I think all of those are good qualities for a guy. Guys that do nice things for no reason.

I never date guys that:

1. Don't have a car
2. Live with their parents
3. Say "no" to partying (What's with that)
4. Hate their parents
5. Don't have a job

If you're not in any of those numbers, you're game :)

Jesus... I'm all those numbers, minus hating the parents. :icon_redf You have to cut guys some slack.

If every girl had your rules, guys would have a shit-fit.

I'm not even suppose to be in here. :read: Carry on.

DefyingGravity
12-08-2004, 07:07 PM
I'm gonna make a list of what I want in a guy.


Physicality:

1. Older
2. Taller(than me, at least)
3. Strong jaw
4. Big hands
5. Cute ears

Misc:

1. Single
2. Outgoing
3. Talented
4. Can play an instrument(preferably guitar)
5. Believes in something/knows where he's going

acliff
12-08-2004, 07:56 PM
Welcome to KKW, sir. :)

I think all of those are good qualities for a guy. Guys that do nice things for no reason.

I never date guys that:

1. Don't have a car
2. Live with their parents
3. Say "no" to partying (What's with that)
4. Hate their parents
5. Don't have a job

If you're not in any of those numbers, you're game :)

Oh dear, thats leaves me out. 1, 2, how I curse you.... :err:

Mandy
12-08-2004, 08:15 PM
Oh dear, thats leaves me out. 1, 2, how I curse you.... :err:

Of course the fact that you're British cancels everything out :)

ryan
12-08-2004, 09:04 PM
In most cases, sweet guys don't get jack. Why, you ask?

They're boring, predictable, and not fun.

What fun is it for the girl when she already knows that she has a guy wrapped around her finger. She knows his responses to every question or situation. He's not mysterious, secure, or sexually and socially confident.

You've got to remain a little distant in order to cause some interest in her. Be a challenge, not a push over. Don't be predictable or clingy. Being at her every beck and call is only going to hurt your chances.

acliff
12-08-2004, 09:14 PM
In most cases, sweet guys don't get jack. Why, you ask?

They're boring, predictable, and not fun.

What fun is it for the girl when she already knows that she has a guy wrapped around her finger. She knows his responses to every question or situation. He's not mysterious, secure, or sexually and socially confident.

You've got to remain a little distant in order to cause some interest in her. Be a challenge, not a push over. Don't be predictable or clingy. Being at her every beck and call is only going to hurt your chances.

Rich words, coming from you
:fencing:

You can be sweet, while being unpredictable, funny, and fun to hang out with. I'm sure someone with these traits exists somewhere....

keira_lover
12-08-2004, 09:21 PM
You can be sweet, while being unpredictable, funny, and fun to hang out with. I'm sure someone with these traits exists somewhere....

Ahem, *points finger at himself*

acliff
12-08-2004, 09:25 PM
Ahem, *points finger at himself*

How predictable, and unfunny. Whats your point?

keira_lover
12-08-2004, 09:48 PM
How predictable, and unfunny. Whats your point?

You tell me. First you say that you always thought I was a girl (wishfull thinking) and now in your previous post, you just so happen to describe me perfectly. Is there something you want to tell me, Cliffy?

acliff
12-08-2004, 09:56 PM
I wants your babies darling boy. With my charm, humour, intelligence, and fantastic personailty, and your .... arrogance, we can make a wonder child, who will go far.

MarkOB
12-08-2004, 10:15 PM
My suggestion (as a guy):

Girls are like cheese. Loads of different varieties so that you have to taste each one to work out which you like the most and which agrees with your needs the best.

Hazzle
12-08-2004, 10:36 PM
I wants your babies darling boy. With my charm, humour, intelligence, and fantastic personailty, and your .... arrogance, we can make a wonder child, who will go far.

Damnit...I wanted his babies...beaten by Cliff AGAIN :icon_mecr

acliff
12-08-2004, 10:38 PM
My suggestion (as a guy):

Girls are like cheese. Loads of different varieties so that you have to taste each one to work out which you like the most and which agrees with your needs the best.

Obviously at the age of 14, you have yet to experience what would happen if you told a girl she tastes like cheese.

Hazzle
12-08-2004, 10:51 PM
I'm 23 and I've yet to experience it Cliffeh...care to share this experience with the rest of us?

Kelsey
12-08-2004, 10:51 PM
I never date guys that:

1. Don't have a car
2. Live with their parents
3. Say "no" to partying (What's with that)
4. Hate their parents
5. Don't have a job

I'm confusing. I like random acts of kindness, but don't hang all over me and reassure me every five minutes that you love me. I just want to know. A car is a bonus for me, because I have one. He should just have his liscence at least. Living with his parents could go either way. If I have my own place at the time, then I consider that problem fixed. At least one of us need to live alone. I don't care if he says no to partying as long as he's not a total hermit. I don't care if he hates his parents either, but if he loves them, don't ridicule me for hating my mom. A job is very important. He better be a Brad Pitt if he doesn't have a job, but wants me to go out with him. Also, I wouldn't even consider someone who didn't graduate college or isn't planning on graduating college. I can't even tell you. That's so unnattractive to me.

barrington
12-08-2004, 10:57 PM
I adore the delicious hypocracy of it all.

1. Woman don't want a guy who's all mushy, tells them he loves her every second of the day, does kind things regularly, hangs around and does stuff for them. They want to be independent young ladies.
They don't want to be waited on hand and foot.

2. Women do want a guy who has a car to drive them places, a house to put them up for free and look after them in and money to take them out and buy them things.
They DO want to be waited on hand and foot.


Women are designed to be irrational and make no sense. That's just the way it is.

Hazzle
12-08-2004, 11:01 PM
Women are designed to be irrational and make no sense. That's just the way it is.

Truth.

Kelsey
12-08-2004, 11:07 PM
I definitely don't want to be waited on. I don't feel I need to be with anyone and, call it shallow, if I had to choose between a successful career that required hard work and most of my time, or a good relationship, I would choose the career. I've always been a pretty independant person and I don't need to be waited on hand and foot. To me, that shows weakness.

barrington
12-08-2004, 11:15 PM
I would postulate that one needs to show some degree of weakness and dependence to endure a successful relationship. If you do not lower some defences and become a little interdependent with a potential partner, you will be merely relegated to the status of Cast Iron Bitch, ensuring that no man will ever touch you.

There's loads of hard-nosed career women that are just like this. They have high-powered, well-paid jobs in the city. But they will all retire sad and lonely.

CollisionStar
13-08-2004, 02:37 AM
Oh fun...

For anyone who doesn't know, I'm a chick. I would like to say that I don't like being said to be dependent, independent, high maintenence, waited on, chased after, etc. I ecspecially don't like being compared to cheese by 14 year olds.

On the other hand, I find that, to me, I would be fine in fitting into sterotypical "get married, be a housewife". It appeals to me in some ways. So does the alternative. What I really mean to say is that grouping it together is hard since too many people feel too many different ways.

I really hope this made sense. I don't think I even knew what I was saying.

Dr.No
13-08-2004, 02:51 AM
Well Ladies i fill all those qualities and am curently availlable looks like its your lucky day

Renegade
13-08-2004, 03:29 AM
Well Ladies i fill all those qualities and am curently availlable looks like its your lucky day

I presume one of those qualities includes desperation :p.

ryan
13-08-2004, 03:33 AM
I presume one of those qualities includes desperation :p.

or arrogance.

gracie
13-08-2004, 03:54 AM
er ideal- really tall like 6'4, slender. now you ask a good guy- a good guy will be there to help you when you screw up, he wont mess with your head or press you for sex when ur not in the mood, he might be gay. a guy id go for is usually dominant, funny/sarcastic, intelligent but not a sweet guy.

Mandy
13-08-2004, 06:59 AM
I adore the delicious hypocracy of it all.

1. Woman don't want a guy who's all mushy, tells them he loves her every second of the day, does kind things regularly, hangs around and does stuff for them. They want to be independent young ladies.
They don't want to be waited on hand and foot.

2. Women do want a guy who has a car to drive them places, a house to put them up for free and look after them in and money to take them out and buy them things.
They DO want to be waited on hand and foot.


Women are designed to be irrational and make no sense. That's just the way it is.

:D It keeps us mysterious that way.

Except I don't wanna be waited on hand and foot. I'll pay the tab at dinner every once in a while and volunteer to drive.

In no way should a relationship contain one person giving and giving and the other just receiving.

A married couple I know are having problems because they are in financial struggle. The wife complains that her husband needs a better job because there isn't enough money to support them which is why they and their 3 yr old daughter are moving into an apartment. She doesn't have a job. The biggest hypocrisy I've ever known.

A relationship that works is 50-50.

Dr.No
13-08-2004, 05:06 PM
Its actually not called arrogance i'd call it being confident, your not gonna get anything done if your not confident in yourself there buddy

acliff
13-08-2004, 06:20 PM
Its actually not called arrogance i'd call it being confident, your not gonna get anything done if your not confident in yourself there buddy

The difference between arrogance and confidence is entirely up to others to decide there buddy. You can state that you're confident, but its whether the people who talk to you think you're arrogant or not that counts.

What people tend to look for in their prospective partners is at least partially dependant on their parent's marital status. If they're happy, you may look for someone like your parents (sick as it sounds) or someone exciting, if you feel your parents are boring. If you're parents are divorced, or deceased that can also add at the very least subconcious changes to the things you look for.

Hazzle
13-08-2004, 08:37 PM
Aye...there's also a theory that people actually look for partners that remind them of one of their parents...boys for women like their mothers, women for men like their fathers...not sure if any studies have been done into homosexual people and whether, for example, a gay man seeks a partner like his mother or his father...I'd guess mother...especially as even in this day and age many fathers can't accept that their sons are gay...<shrugs> curious issue.

MarkOB
14-08-2004, 07:16 AM
I definitely don't want to be waited on. I don't feel I need to be with anyone and, call it shallow, if I had to choose between a successful career that required hard work and most of my time, or a good relationship, I would choose the career. I've always been a pretty independant person and I don't need to be waited on hand and foot. To me, that shows weakness.

Do you mean that it shows weakness in yourself or weakness in the guy?

Obviously at the age of 14, you have yet to experience what would happen if you told a girl she tastes like cheese.

Now that is a good point! Why the heck didn't I recognise that?!

OH, how stupid I am!!

Liam
14-08-2004, 12:19 PM
Fucking truth.

Hazzle
14-08-2004, 12:21 PM
Fucking truth.

What is? You're going to have to stop posting with a Guinness in hand...ok? :D

Kelsey
14-08-2004, 05:40 PM
I think it shows weakness when someone always feels they always need to be with someone. Like J. Lo. She obviously knows what she's doing business-wise, but then she goes off and marries every guy in that industry, and people don't think as highly of her because of it. Maybe weakness was the wrong word. I just would rather have a successful career than a successful relationship. I would love to have a successful relationship, don't get me wrong, it's just not my first priority.

Vertical Vortex
15-08-2004, 09:57 AM
I'm gonna make a list of what I want in a guy.


Physicality:

1. Older
2. Taller(than me, at least)
3. Strong jaw
4. Big hands
5. Cute ears

Misc:

1. Single
2. Outgoing
3. Talented
4. Can play an instrument(preferably guitar)
5. Believes in something/knows where he's going

HAH! thats 70% me!
wanna date? :)

edit: more like 80/85%!

Hazzle
15-08-2004, 12:18 PM
Ahhh...transatlantic love...:p

DefyingGravity
15-08-2004, 03:55 PM
Sorry Vertical Vortex, the only thing that can ever be between us is an ocean. ;)

Narzys
15-08-2004, 04:03 PM
1. Don't have a car
2. Live with their parents
3. Say "no" to partying (What's with that)
4. Hate their parents
5. Don't have a job

If you're not in any of those numbers, you're game :)


Why???

That would be very difficult !!!
Think one of MY rules are: ... no rules please

kilyncw
16-08-2004, 12:50 PM
well i started this thread to see if i was doing something wrong, and i found that holy shit there are a lot of shallow ppl. haha.

honestly i do feel more comfortable about being the way i am with my gf. trust me sweetness isn't necessarily predictible. the only downfall is i constantly have to find ways to out do myself, and its getting hard haha.

i have talked to some girls about what to do for her bday and they're response was "buy her flowers with a really nice note" haha i do that because it is tuesday not for her bday. i feel bad for the girls that don't have someone that cares enough about them to treat the way some deserve.

i have an idea for what to do for her birthday, well i am a strong believer that a true gift can't be bought, but made. bought things are nice just not that meaningful. i am working on a gift i call "10 things i love about you", yeah i know i am working on the title i have a month so. but i think she will really love it.
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Hazzle
16-08-2004, 04:48 PM
i have talked to some girls about what to do for her bday and they're response was "buy her flowers with a really nice note" haha i do that because it is tuesday not for her bday. i feel bad for the girls that don't have someone that cares enough about them to treat the way some deserve.

Aye...true that. Buying flowers, doing nice things, that shouldn't be only for special occasions. And a lot of girls don't have someone who treats them like they deserve...mighty big shame...but it seems some girls like a cunt who treats them badly...

i have an idea for what to do for her birthday, well i am a strong believer that a true gift can't be bought, but made. bought things are nice just not that meaningful. i am working on a gift i call "10 things i love about you", yeah i know i am working on the title i have a month so. but i think she will really love it.

I disagree that bought things can't be meaningful, if you take the time to put a lot of thought into the gift of course it can be meaningful :p

kilyncw
16-08-2004, 04:58 PM
yes this is true, i don't understand it but if some girls wanna call a kiss with the fist love, so be it, but then don't use me as a crying shoulder because i am nice. that happens all too often.
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Hazzle
16-08-2004, 05:04 PM
yes this is true, i don't understand it but if some girls wanna call a kiss with the fist love, so be it, but then don't use me as a crying shoulder because i am nice. that happens all too often.

Aye...can sympathise with that entirely...except I'm never one to say "Don't use me as a shoulder to cry on" because I'm a sap :p

As for the whole "first love" thing I tend to think girls are less inclined to use the "L" word than guys are...so I'm not sure that's true...it's just a case of them being willing to be treated badly...

I'll leave you with one of my favourites lines from Friends:

"'You're such a nice guy' means 'I'm going to be dating leather-wearing alcoholics and complaining about them to you.'"~Chandler~

kilyncw
16-08-2004, 05:17 PM
Aye...can sympathise with that entirely...except I'm never one to say "Don't use me as a shoulder to cry on" because I'm a sap :p

As for the whole "first love" thing I tend to think girls are less inclined to use the "L" word than guys are...so I'm not sure that's true...it's just a case of them being willing to be treated badly...

I'll leave you with one of my favourites lines from Friends:

"'You're such a nice guy' means 'I'm going to be dating leather-wearing alcoholics and complaining about them to you.'"~Chandler~

no no hazzle you misread i think, it isn't first love, it was if a girl wants to call a "kiss with the fist" love, then so be it. meaning if they want a dude that treats them like shit and hit them but want to say they love him then i can't do much. and like you i can't say don't use me as a crying shoulder, i always give in, but i really hate it, haha.
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barrington
16-08-2004, 06:12 PM
Don't worry about it, this is a well-documented problem revolving around the two pillars of INTELLECTUAL WHORE and CUDDLE BITCH.

The whole thing is examined in the unfailing Ladder Theory (http://intellectualwhores.com/masterladder.html)