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Immortal
19-08-2006, 10:18 AM
I thought it was a great movie, too bad i didnt see it from the beginning. I liked the story alot. Who else liked The Jacket?

kingdumbass
19-08-2006, 10:52 AM
I thought it was an OK movie....
The first time I saw it, it blew my mind, but in subsequent viewings, I found it to be kind of boring.

2 out of 5.

Immortal
19-08-2006, 11:06 AM
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c397/jscro/stfu1.jpg


LOL, just playing

KeiraZone
20-08-2006, 01:34 AM
Yeah I think it's boring either. Actually, I think the best movie apart from PoTC that Keira's ever taken part in as the main actress is Pride And Prejudice, don't you think?

CountryTomboy91
20-08-2006, 01:57 AM
I'd love to learn more about it. Can someone explain it in better detail than "A guy in a straight jacket visits the future" or whatever those crappy descriptions on imdb and msn say? Id appreciate it much!

Immortal
20-08-2006, 05:15 AM
I dont know how to explain it but *Spoilers ahead* his character is a Gulf War Veteran and he has died i think 3 times, and he remembers his death. (Dont know how to explain.)

calereneau
20-08-2006, 02:10 PM
Adrian Brody - Gulf War Veteran. "Dies" in Gulf War, but is revived. Has post-traumatic stress disorder and forgets many events. Accused of murder but cannot remember if he did or didn't. Put in mental institution. Experimented on with drugs that allow him to travel forward in time where he meets Keira Knightley.

i'm 99% sure this has been discussed elsewhere.

Hazzle
20-08-2006, 07:05 PM
Crap film. Bloody godawful pap. Shame really.

Foeni
20-08-2006, 07:47 PM
You really should try and use the search facility Immortal.

http://www.kkwavefront.org/forums/showthread.php?t=118&highlight=jacket

CountryTomboy91
21-08-2006, 01:07 AM
Now that Hazzle has posted his opinion, it must be true.... lol. So the film is godawful?

I'd just like to see it just for keira being in it.... then, if it sucks, boycott blockbuster... damn them.
You know how they got "rid" of late fees???

Well, here in Montana, they still charge late fees, after running the banner saying they were abolished, and then said, nope they're still in effect here....
Solid gold S-H-I-TTTTT!

Movie Gallery is under construction... Blockbuster is the only option. THe plot sounds interesting enough, though.

Swordsman
21-08-2006, 02:11 AM
Movie Gallery is quite the shitty video store.

Immortal
21-08-2006, 03:13 AM
Foeni Please. I never knew there was one until that first time you posted.

Hazzle
21-08-2006, 07:52 AM
Now that Hazzle has posted his opinion, it must be true.... lol. So the film is godawful?

You're learning fast ;). Yes, in my view, it's poor, and I could never bring myself to watch it again. Glad I watched it after my obsession with Keira died down, however, as I'd probably have forced myself to like it back then :p

Immortal: I think it was obvious you didn't know there was one, and Foeni was merely pointing out the search facility to you. In fact there's no excuse for not knowing there is one, you should pay more attention, and anyone with your post count should know. And yet Foeni was very polite and merely pointed it out to you.

Immortal
21-08-2006, 01:51 PM
Hazzle did you read my post correctly? I simply said i didnt know there was one until he posted the first time.

Foeni
21-08-2006, 02:00 PM
Well now you know. Use it before starting a new topic with a that high probability for being a re-post.

Can we get a lock, please?

Leonie
21-08-2006, 02:29 PM
Well now you know. Use it before starting a new topic with a that high probability for being a re-post.

Can we get a lock, please?

Just out of curiosity: who made you a moderator? And secondly: when did you become boss?

I'll do as I please, and I do not wish to close the The Jacket discussion topic.

However, offtopic:

Now, The Jacket. I had it somewhere, and watched the first half, and then I miraculously lost it. The first half wasn't impressive enough to make me want to see the rest so far.

CountryTomboy91
21-08-2006, 03:55 PM
Keira said she de-glammed alot for this role, however, in the trailer and stuff she looked fine...
Now, she's an alcoholic, is that right?
So what's her story in this?

Foeni
21-08-2006, 05:26 PM
Just out of curiosity: who made you a moderator? And secondly: when did you become boss?

I'll do as I please, and I do not wish to close the The Jacket discussion topic.

It was meant as polite request rather than command. I asked for it because I thought it would be appropriate since we do already have an open thread about The Jacket.
Besides, if I was a mod, why request a lock?

Jesus, take it easy.

Mandy
21-08-2006, 05:46 PM
Keira said she de-glammed alot for this role, however, in the trailer and stuff she looked fine...
Now, she's an alcoholic, is that right?
So what's her story in this?

I'm pretty sure that's what it was. It's been a year or so since I've seen it and it was completely forgettable. I remember Keira having the SHITTIEST american accent.

Hazzle
21-08-2006, 10:17 PM
Hazzle did you read my post correctly? I simply said i didnt know there was one until he posted the first time.

Err. Yes. Hence why I said by "one" I presume you mean you didn't know there was a search facility? That's what I was getting at. It's obvious you didn't know or you wouldn't be posting another thread. Not unless you were a stupid cunt and we give you the benefit of the doubt on that score.

As I said, someone who's been around as long as you should know the search facility. It's not hard to find, in fact, it stares you in the face. Now if you use it and don't find a thread, and somehow one exists (odd use of capitalisation in titles or whatever) then that's fine, but you really should've known about the search facility. That said, now you know where it is.

Leonie: I'm not trying to stir up trouble, but technically Fo's an officer and as such doesn't "need" a mod badge as he outranks you ;). He didn't tell you what to do, he asked, and as the officers and mods work as a team, I don't see what he did wrong. It's his job to keep order and maintain the forums, and act as a mod without resorting to using powers. In fact the mods are technically no more than grunts to exert brute force to back up the officer's use of skill and diplomacy

ON topic: Mandy's right, the accent's terrible.

CountryTomboy91
21-08-2006, 11:04 PM
I'm pretty sure that's what it was. It's been a year or so since I've seen it and it was completely forgettable. I remember Keira having the SHITTIEST american accent.
Mandy's right, the accent's terrible.

She said in an interview that she took her voice down about an octave and tried to make it huskier to sound less British....
Then my friend Shelby said she saw the trailer and dear old keira still sounded undeniably British.
So, which is it?

DOWN WITH BLOCKBUSTER, THE LATE FEE CHARGING, LYING PUKES!!!!!!!!!!!
DOWN WITH MOVIE GALLERY AND THEIR CRAPPY FACILITIES!
When in doubt, turn to..... Netflix?

kingdumbass
21-08-2006, 11:13 PM
Actually, the accent is very good....

allied_assult
22-08-2006, 12:09 AM
I thought it was all right but i've only seen it once. I think they shouldn't have made her do an accent though. It made her seem really dark.

Mandy
22-08-2006, 12:46 AM
Actually, the accent is very good....

Actually no, it really wasn't. It was an effort...but you could definitely tell she really had to fight her accent.

kingdumbass
22-08-2006, 01:15 AM
Her accent was just fine....
It was her acting BEYOND the accent that left much to be desired. Like, when she ordered Adrian Brody out of her home. Up until that point, I thought she was doing pretty well; then..."You get out!!!"

I cringed. For me, It fucked up everything past that point, even though she was, objectively, fine for the rest of the movie.

I want to see her try an American accent again, for something more light-hearted.

Swordsman
22-08-2006, 02:00 AM
The accent is alright here and there, but for the most part it's pretty bad. You can just sort of tell she's trying to keep that accent going. I thought the movie was alright, the first time around. Then i saw it a second time and noticed the terrible, terrible plot holes.

Immortal
22-08-2006, 07:41 AM
hazzle do you have to fuck up every damn topic of mines?

Hazzle
22-08-2006, 08:05 AM
hazzle do you have to fuck up every damn topic of mines?

Do you have to post? No. Do you have to post a thread that was already up? No, because you should know how to use the search facility.

I commented ON topic. So shut the fuck up.

YOU need to stop arguing with the officers (first Mandy, now Foeni). They're actually senior to mods, and deserve your respect as much as any mod. All I was doing was pointing that out. So far I'm being incredibly civil with you. In the same vein, I advise you strongly against stirring up a fight with me.

Back ON topic: CountryTomboy, Mandy's right. She still sounded undeniably English (it's English damnit, British could mean she sounded Scottish!). In parts you could actually HEAR the underlying accent, in others it sounded just like an English person trying to put on an American accent. Which it shouldn't have. You could tell it was an effort, like Mandy said. And Dumbass, have you ever struggled with alcohol abuse? Because I thought she captured that well. So her acting otherwise wasn't that bad. Although that one scene you highlighted was, I put that down entirely to the accent. Acting is both verbal and physical, whilst the physical acting was superb (she convinced me she was struggling with alcoholism) the verbal suffered (like when she orders him out of her house) because of the strain she was putting her voice under anyway in trying to hold the accent. In that scene I thought her face conveyed the character's mood well, but her tone was poor, because of the accent.

Leonie
22-08-2006, 08:39 AM
Am I the only one who finds that even her English accent sounds forced these days?

Hazzle
22-08-2006, 08:41 AM
No, no you're not. Her acting seems forced these days ;)

kingdumbass
22-08-2006, 09:09 AM
Heh, I once encountered a guy online who insisted that Keira used to work as a check-out girl at some grocery store near London, and his big problem with her was that "she doesn't REALLY talk that way!!!"....
Just a pointless anecdote for ya.

Anyway, Hazzle -- I maintain that her American accent in The Jacket was, in and of itself, convincing. I think that anyone seeing the film who didn't know in advance that Keira was English would not have thought twice about her accent. The crux of our disagreement on this matter seems to be that she had trouble doing BOTH and accent WHILE giving a good performance. Something was off there.

And yes -- I have dealt with alcoholism, and I found her portrayal of an alcoholic to be rather derivative. I didn't even really get the sense that she was a drunkard until reading later that's what she was supposed to be. To me, she just seemed depressed, in a general way.

Although I bet that she could pull the part off much better now than she could back then.

Hazzle
22-08-2006, 10:18 AM
I think the way she held her drink suggested alcohol dependency. At least it reminded me how I used to, gripping it tightly, almost huddled over it like some precious commodity.

But yes, the overwhelming thing was her depression. Not that that was a bad thing because she was a depressive first and an alcoholic second. My problem was the same, although I suppose it's an individual experience that no two people share EXACTLY.

And I still maintain her accent was gash. I've heard some English actresses do it well. She wasn't one of them. However I still maintain overall that it's easier for Americans to do English accents than vice-versa. Why, I don't know, but I think it's true.

kingdumbass
22-08-2006, 10:35 AM
That's interesting....
It's odd because I tend to be annoyed when I hear an American actor doing an English accent. For instance, Natalie Portman (even though she's technically from Israel, she grew up mostly in America), in V for Vendetta, distracted me with that accent for the first half of the movie until I got used to it. There are other examples, but I'm too tired to think of them now.

Regarding English actors playing Americans -- like I've said before, I think Kate Winslet, in "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" did a GREAT American accent...and Bob Hoskins is always good with them, in anything. As I've also said, Kristin Scott Thomas did the worst American accent I've heard, in some movie with Harrison Ford, the name of which escapes me.

Oh, and the way in which Keira held her drink is part of what threw me off, as far as the alcoholism thing was concerned. At the height of MY alcohol issues, I was actually pretty sloppy with my booze, spilling it all the time, and guzzling it with bits dripping all over. Maybe that has more to do with the fact that I was a beer drinker, and in The Jacket, Keira appeared to be going for the harder stuff. I guess it all just depends on one's perspective.

Hazzle
22-08-2006, 10:41 AM
With the alcohol thing I think it's different for different people. I don't know your reasons for it and to be honest, it's none of my business, so I won't pry, but for me the drink was my salvation from my crushing depression, so I clung onto it tightly. Then again, I rarely drunk out of glasses, and one holds bottles entirely differently.

I actually think Bob Hoskins' accents are AWFUL. He sounds like a cunt from Peckham pretending he's from New York. HATE it. I actually thought Natalie Portman's accent was excellent in V, and she's someone who does do it well. Interesting.

Perhaps to "locals" accents done by foreigners sound more impressive? For example Americans are foreigners and the English accent is my "local" one, so I'm more inclined to be impressed, and you, as an American, are more impressed with foreigners (Brits) doing American ones? Maybe it comes down to the perspective we have on it?

Mandy
22-08-2006, 10:43 AM
hazzle do you have to fuck up every damn topic of mines?

If I seriously see you ask this question to anyone in "your" threads again, because this is probably about the third or fourth time, I'm going to go outside, find an animal, name it "immortal" and kill the shit out of it. You really don't want me to do that.

kingdumbass
22-08-2006, 10:52 AM
I drank to overcome my more destructive addiction to amphetamine....
So I kicked the speed, but got hooked on the booze. But I suppose that, like you, a deep-rooted depression was really the cause of it all. Whatever. It's all good now. It's my belief that if you haven't suffered, you haven't lived.

And that's neither here, nor there.

Anyway, you could very well be right about the perspectives on accents thing. When I see an English actor doing an American role, if they're convincing at all, I think, "HEY! He's (or, she's) doing GREAT!" However, when I see someone who I know to be American trying to play an English person, I think, "Quit it, you show off!"

I grew up watching Bob Hoskins in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", so to me, he'll always seem kind of American. In fact, I find it odd when I hear him speaking like an Englishman.

Mandy
22-08-2006, 11:13 AM
I grew up watching Bob Hoskins in "Who Framed Roger Rabbit", so to me, he'll always seem kind of American. In fact, I find it odd when I hear him speaking like an Englishman.

Now THERE'S someone that can pull of a great american accent. I thought that as well. I never would've guessed him as English.

I just didn't like Keira in the movie...maybe I'm just kind of used to her playing period pieces as opposed to more modern day settings.

Hazzle
22-08-2006, 11:45 AM
Heh. Bob Hoskins was awful in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. So blatently Peckham.

Then again I think it's because I can tell he's not American, but a Brit showing off ;)

Couldn't agree more with the suffering thing Dumbass. It's part of life.

CountryTomboy91
22-08-2006, 11:17 PM
I commented ON topic. So shut the fuck up.
Haha, that's right!

Back ON topic: CountryTomboy, Mandy's right. She still sounded undeniably English (it's English damnit, British could mean she sounded Scottish!).

I'm sorry! I feel bad now.... Damn my American-ness....
Thanks for all your info guys, I think I'm gonna rent the movie and watch it....
Any plot holes or anything? I still want some more information on Keira's role!
TY!

BTW, Ociffer Mandy, I love your Avatar.... V for Vendetta, right? Good choice for an avatar!

Hazzle
22-08-2006, 11:34 PM
No plot holes that I can think of, but to be fair, I hardly paid it much attention.

It bored the tits off me. I pity the women who watch it.

Except those with breast cancer. Obviously. Saves them a lot of painful surgery.

CountryTomboy91
22-08-2006, 11:54 PM
No plot holes that I can think of, but to be fair, I hardly paid it much attention.

It bored the tits off me. I pity the women who watch it.

Except those with breast cancer. Obviously. Saves them a lot of painful surgery.

Good one.... Perhaps I shouldn't watch it, then?

Immortal
23-08-2006, 01:26 AM
Hazzle when the hell did i argue with Feoni, i dont see how Feoni please, i didnt know about that until you posted the first time, is a argument and plus everyone is the same to me, i dont know why the hell you keep forgetting its the internet.

Digital_Ice
23-08-2006, 01:33 AM
stay on topic please.

Mandy
23-08-2006, 01:46 AM
Good one.... Perhaps I shouldn't watch it, then?

If you're a hardcore Keira fan who thinks she looks attractive if she had puke all over her, you should watch it. She isn't much to look at in it, and the acting is meh. The movie overall isn't very good.

kingdumbass
23-08-2006, 04:03 AM
Not much to look at???
I actually think she looked the hottest in The Jacket.

Swordsman
23-08-2006, 06:23 AM
Yeah, i actually thought she was rather good lookin' it in too.

Hazzle
23-08-2006, 08:10 AM
Nope, really not all that much to look at. You two are weirdos...

ryan
23-08-2006, 12:20 PM
i liked how her voice was really low. fit with her being sad and having a grim outlook on life.

Immortal
24-08-2006, 02:20 AM
Yes, i also thinks she looks hottest in the jacket.

Hazzle
24-08-2006, 02:21 AM
Weirdos.

Only film she looked worse in was Domino.

Hottest was The Hole. Followed by Love Actually.

kingdumbass
24-08-2006, 09:51 AM
Ha....
I thought she was second hottest in Domino. Then again, I'm also the guy who likes it when she's dressed like a slob in candid photos.

Takes different strokes, homeboy....

CountryTomboy91
24-08-2006, 01:29 PM
If you're a hardcore Keira fan who thinks she looks attractive if she had puke all over her, you should watch it. She isn't much to look at in it, and the acting is meh. The movie overall isn't very good.

I see.... BTW, Mandy, I love your Avatar.... V for Vendetta!!!

Seydel
24-08-2006, 09:47 PM
I just watched the Jacket yesterday. I disagree with most of you. I really liked the movie. Watched it with mum, we both really liked it. I didn't find it boring, I thought it was really interesting. And I know I'm no specialist in American accents, and yes I could hear her english accent come through still I applaud Keira's efforts in attempting the accent. I do like the way her voice was lower though. It was a good movie in my opinion. Adrien Brody's a great actor.... that is how you spell his name right? *shrugs* oh well.

CountryTomboy91
25-08-2006, 12:09 AM
I'm glad to have gotten some positive feedback. With some mixed reviews, I'm deff. gonna have to rent the movie!
Adrien Brody? No offense, but I don't much like him. To each their own. :)

Immortal
25-08-2006, 04:02 AM
I thought she was second hottest in pirates of the caribbean and then 3rd in the second one

Seydel
25-08-2006, 04:15 AM
Adrien Brody? No offense, but I don't much like him. To each their own. :)

Meh, your loss. :P I really liked the Pianist.

Hazzle
25-08-2006, 01:05 PM
What she means is she really likes pianists.

Joana
25-08-2006, 04:42 PM
To me the movie is nice...well it's not amazing...but it has a good story, a good cast and a good crew...mixing everything...it gives a nice movie! :icon_popc

CountryTomboy91
26-08-2006, 02:16 PM
What she means is she really likes pianists.

Agreed, Hazzle.

Violet
29-08-2006, 08:38 PM
I just watched the Jacket yesterday. I disagree with most of you. I really liked the movie. Watched it with mum, we both really liked it. I didn't find it boring, I thought it was really interesting. And I know I'm no specialist in American accents, and yes I could hear her english accent come through still I applaud Keira's efforts in attempting the accent. I do like the way her voice was lower though. It was a good movie in my opinion. Adrien Brody's a great actor.... that is how you spell his name right? *shrugs* oh well.
I kind of agree. My pretty eclectic taste in films (well, pretty much everything) and the fact that I'm a nerd has given me an appreciation for arty, film noir, type films - this one included. I can understand why it's unpopular with a lot of people, but I still found it interesting. And I liked the fact that you could argue the entire film was in his head. Hmm.

KeiraZone
30-08-2006, 02:27 PM
Still, I don't think The Jacket has turned out the way it should have. The goal is for Jack to survive by Jackie's help but at the end he still have died anyway. The ending of the film somehow disappointed me.
And who likes Noah Percy? I don't like him.

jackenton
30-08-2006, 08:25 PM
I thought The Jacket was somewhat confusing in the beginning. However, I understood what it was all about by the end. At the same time, I don't think it was very well done. On the bright side, Keira looked pretty good (appearance-wise).

Seydel
05-09-2006, 10:47 AM
What she means is she really likes pianists.

Actually I prefer singers. Usually Bass/baritones. They have sexy voices. I mean, what beats listening to Anthony Warlow or Teddy Tahu Rhodes SPEAK let alone SING?

On Topic: I did like that movie. The Jacket.

Ruby
13-01-2007, 01:56 AM
I saw this movie last night and it is really cool. If you've read the short story "An Occurance on Owl Creek Bridge" it's sort of like that. A psychological thriller.

mongoose
20-03-2007, 02:13 PM
I first saw the film yesterday. And I don't think it was a good role for Keira. It was just a background role. Very few appearances.
But I kind of liked it.

Joana
20-03-2007, 07:11 PM
I first saw the film yesterday. And I don't think it was a good role for Keira. It was just a background role. Very few appearances.
But I kind of liked it.

Well, I like it and I think that was good for Keira because she's always playing roles of the past where she has to use a corset...and in The Jacket she's different and with american accent:)