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Leonie
04-08-2006, 10:09 AM
You have to be a complete idiot to find the following offensive:

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20015691-2,00.html

The summary is that a parenting magazine have put a baby being breastfed on the cover, and people are whining about it, because apparently it's "shocking."

Seriously, EVERYONE's seen it up close at some stage of their life, but a bunch of holier than thou prudes feel the need to get upset over a perfectly innocent cover picture? What a load of crap.

It's done tastefully, it's a cute picture... Am I the only one who thinks it's madness to get upset about this cover? It's a parenting magazine! Comments please :)

(/rant)

Sarah
04-08-2006, 10:13 AM
You're right, it is crazy.

Thats an adorable picture, I don't understand what is offensive about it.

Leonie
04-08-2006, 10:14 AM
"'Gross, I am sick of seeing a baby attached to a boob,' the mother of a four-month-old said."

May God be with that baby.

It must be horrible to nurse a baby the way nature intended it, just like giving birth should be abolished too - what a disgusting affair that is.

On this topic: what do you guys think of the whole "should women be allowed to nurse their babies in public" debate? The way I see it, the only thing distinguishing a breast from an arm is in the baby's mouth, so I don't see the problem...

Foeni
04-08-2006, 11:02 AM
Women should in general be allowed to flash their boobs.

Seriously, if people find it offensive they should just stop looking at or buying the magazine. Pretty simple. I'd understand if it was hardcore porn being thrown in your face. Actually I wouldn't even call a full boobs flash offensive. I once saw on the frontpage of a women's magazine that had some articles about pregnancy, show a pregnant woman in full nudity (well, it was from the side if I remember correctly, so it didn't really show her more private parts), and guess what. No whining about that. What would there be to whine about?

kingdumbass
04-08-2006, 11:49 AM
In no way do I find breastfeeding offensive, but I gotta say that I don't understand why women feel the need to do it....
Seems like too much trouble. Wouldn't it just be more pleasant (both long-term and short-term) to give the kid a bottle of formula? And another thing -- why give birth the natural way? It's unpredictable and seems rather painful. Just get a C-Section. It's a slam dunk. You can even schedule it for whenever you want.

Hey, I'm just SAYIN'...if I were a woman, that's how I would handle things.

But back to the original topic -- anyone who's offended by that magazine cover is a dolt.

Leonie
04-08-2006, 11:59 AM
In no way do I find breastfeeding offensive, but I gotta say that I don't understand why women feel the need to do it....
Seems like too much trouble. Wouldn't it just be more pleasant (both long-term and short-term) to give the kid a bottle of formula? And another thing -- why give birth the natural way? It's unpredictable and seems rather painful. Just get a C-Section. It's a slam dunk. You can even schedule it for whenever you want.

Hey, I'm just SAYIN'...if I were a woman, that's how I would handle things.

But back to the original topic -- anyone who's offended by that magazine cover is a dolt.

As far as breast feeding is concerned, you may want to consider that it is heaps healthier for the baby, because it boosts their immune system in a way no formula could.

Apparently some people find breast feeding offensive, especially in places like restaurants or coffee shops. I don't see why, if everyone else is having a drink, the baby should stay behind, but maybe that's just me. When I was still a tiny little baby, my mum once was "informed" by staff that they had a room where "she could feed the baby more comfortably." My mum of course informed them that she was perfectly comfortable, but thanks. Heh.

kingdumbass
04-08-2006, 12:15 PM
Well, I'm almost certainly biased on this issue, as I was personally NOT breastfed....
My mother claims it had something to do with some sort of an allergy I supposedly had as a baby, but I suspect that she just didn't want to make her tits saggy, as she didn't breastfeed my sister, either. That vain fuckin' liar.

And that reminds me -- I've always wanted to know what breast milk tastes like. Is it like cow's milk? Vitamin D, or skim? OR, is it totally different? I wanna know.

You can bet your ass that if I ever somehow get my girlfriend pregnant, I'm trying some. I don't care if it's gross. I'm always kissing her boobs, anyway. What difference does it make if something comes out? I've certainly ingested nastier things than that in my time.

Leonie
04-08-2006, 12:19 PM
So it's true when people pitifully say "Awww, I bet he never got breastfed?" It does make you a bit odd, apparently :icon_razz

(Just kidding, couldn't help myself, the joke was begging to be made.)

kingdumbass
04-08-2006, 12:37 PM
No, you're right....
I'll bet it does contribute to making me somewhat strange.

But then again, doesn't EVERYTHING that happens to us when we're young do that?

hasselbrad
04-08-2006, 12:55 PM
Women should be allowed to nurse their babies in public. I don't see the problem. I wonder what arguments one could bring up against it.
jerryfalwell@christianwackos.com ...send him an email. I'm sure he has a form letter prepared.
In no way do I find breastfeeding offensive, but I gotta say that I don't understand why women feel the need to do it....
Seems like too much trouble. Wouldn't it just be more pleasant (both long-term and short-term) to give the kid a bottle of formula?
The nutrients in breastmilk dwarf anything that can be created in a lab. And, is usually digested much easier by the baby. Less reflux and spitting up.
Most importantly, however, this ease of digestion leads to the most wonderful benefit of breastfeeding (beyond the overall well being of the child) which is...
Non-repulsive, pleasant smelling bowel movements. That's right. A diaper full of breast-fed baby squeeze smells like a batch of fresh biscuits (that's the American version) right out of the oven.
Once a bottle of formula is introduced into the digestive tract, that very same baby begins producing something, that if it came out of a factory, would have said factory shut down by the EPA.
And that reminds me -- I've always wanted to know what breast milk tastes like. Is it like cow's milk? Vitamin D, or skim? OR, is it totally different? I wanna know.
Nectar of the Gods. ;)

Hazzle
04-08-2006, 03:01 PM
Breast feeding has definite benefits, but Dumbass, actually many babies do have allergies that require them to use formula. For example a lactose intolerant baby can't breastfeed, they have to have soy milk, and until women's breasts begin offering a "soy" option that'll have to come from formula. It's a shame as those children become even LESS healthy because of the weaker immune system and probably will end up with even MORE allergies as they get older.

As for offensiveness, I didn't find that picture offensive, it is rather cute, and I think the sight of a woman breastfeeding her child is beautiful, sort of reaffirming about life and the delicate balance and all that sort of stuff. It makes me very philosophical. However, I personally feel uncomfortable. Not because it's offensive, but because I'm just like that, and I tend to avert my eyes and fidget.

It's my problem though, and I don't think I should impose it on anyone else, especially as I feel the EXACT same way if I have to walk through the lingerie section in a clothes shop to get to an area I need to get to. I hate that so many clothes shops I go to put the lingerie in places where I can't avoid it!

ryan
04-08-2006, 03:02 PM
i find ugly tits offensive.

Jacoby
04-08-2006, 03:05 PM
I only found the picture offensive after I finished masturbating.



(Was that offensive?)

ryan
04-08-2006, 05:19 PM
I only found the picture offensive after I finished masturbating.



(Was that offensive?)

i'd be offended if i had your genitalia







:*

Mandy
04-08-2006, 05:27 PM
It's soooo true. My older brother was breastfed and I was not. He has two degrees, and I've only graduated from high school. I have bigger dreams though, I guess. That don't involve a college education.

/me is stoopid.

ryan
04-08-2006, 05:36 PM
It's soooo true. My older brother was breastfed and I was not. He has two degrees, and I've only graduated from high school. I have bigger dreams though, I guess. That don't involve a college education.

/me is stoopid.

a good ol' college education is a wonderful thing to fall back on when said dreams dont come true, though.

Arbery
04-08-2006, 06:43 PM
anyone whos find that offensive is a fool...enough said!

DanMan
04-08-2006, 07:13 PM
Actually that picture could have been a fat elbow at that angle. :icon_err:

Just kidding, I do find it very armless er harmless.

hasselbrad
04-08-2006, 07:52 PM
"I was offended and it made my husband very uncomfortable when I left the magazine on the coffee table."

He was uncomfortable because the picture made him realize what a mistake he had made by marrying you...fucking harpy.

Digital_Ice
04-08-2006, 07:52 PM
On this topic: what do you guys think of the whole "should women be allowed to nurse their babies in public" debate? The way I see it, the only thing distinguishing a breast from an arm is in the baby's mouth, so I don't see the problem...

for the first time ever, new labour are doing something useful. they are making it illegal for others to stop people brest feeding in public. i mean, you can starve the child, and 99% of the time, a brest fed baby wont take to a bottle for the times they are in public. and more to the point, why should they have to.

i dont see the bug fuss, i mean, half the population has them, the other half wont complain about getting a look at them :p we all know what they look like....

...argh.... you're getting me ranting again, i could be hear for hours.

prudish bulshit.

Leonie
05-08-2006, 01:17 AM
What I find shocking is that there's a 4 month old baby's mum who is disgusted by the thought of "a baby attached to a boob." I'm sure there are reasons not to nurse your kid, but being disgusted by it... I don't get it.

The irony of it all is that in general, people who find a picture like this offensive are slightly ehm... staunchly religious. Thus, in their view, it is wrong to show off certain bodyparts in public. While that's all lovely, they forget that breastfeeding must actually have been the way God intended babies to get fed, because that's how women, and all other female mammals, are equiped... Eve didn't rock up with a bottle of formula hidden under her hair. And she didn't have any pockets to stick it in either. So in their neverending battle against nudity, they end up discharging one of the most basic human things. I reckon Mary breastfed Jesus, no? But somehow in this day and age, it's disgusting. Hypocrites.

As for offensiveness, I didn't find that picture offensive, it is rather cute, and I think the sight of a woman breastfeeding her child is beautiful, sort of reaffirming about life and the delicate balance and all that sort of stuff. It makes me very philosophical. However, I personally feel uncomfortable. Not because it's offensive, but because I'm just like that, and I tend to avert my eyes and fidget.

That's completely fine, you may be personally uncomfortable with it. What shocks me the most though, is that subscribers to a parenting magazine find this image so shocking. People who have babies! Do they change nappies with their eyes closed because it would otherwise be indecent? The mind boggles.

Swordsman
05-08-2006, 01:26 AM
People are just batshit insane now adays.

Hazzle
05-08-2006, 07:54 AM
That's completely fine, you may be personally uncomfortable with it. What shocks me the most though, is that subscribers to a parenting magazine find this image so shocking. People who have babies! Do they change nappies with their eyes closed because it would otherwise be indecent? The mind boggles.

Yep. It's warped when PARENTS are disturbed by it or when parents decide not to breastfeed because of anything other than the baby's best interests. Sometimes (in the case of those allergic, for example) this is not served by breastfeeding, but where it is, bloody well do it, because it's best for the kid.
Yes, we know, it hurts, it's uncomfortable, but pregnancy itself is hardly that comfortable.

It's all tied in with the same logic that makes "modern women" opt for C-sections rather than giving birth naturally, but at least there, as far as I know, there is no detriment to the child and in fact I think it's less likely to result in complications these days than natural childbirth.

And heh Leonie. The irony of the fact that this is religious right-wing bullshit and yet surely this is how God intended it (if you believe in a God) is hilarious.

Seydel
05-08-2006, 12:09 PM
^^haha. Well I'm Christian, but I suppose not extreme right wing. Which reminds me too much of Great Depression and Nazi Germany as a result. Too much Modern History study. grr. Anyway...

I don't see how it can be offensive. I can understand with some people being uncomfortable with it. But offensive? It is natural. What do they expect the mother to do? Let the child go hungry so as not to disturb the public? I mean, come on! That article's offensive.

dave
07-08-2006, 10:49 AM
Women should in general be allowed to flash their boobs.
<snip> I once saw on the frontpage of a women's magazine that had some articles about pregnancy, show a pregnant woman in full nudity (well, it was from the side if I remember correctly, so it didn't really show her more private parts), and guess what. No whining about that.<snip>
I believe you are referring to Demi Moore's (While she was still Mrs. Bruce Willis) picture on the front of "Atlantic Monthly." And there was a huge row over that picture.

Check here for the answer to most of your questions. http://www.laleche.com/

The answer you won't find there is that Human breast milk is extremely sweet tasting. And every father has tasted it I suspect.

I, object to your characterization that only half of the human race has boobs. The entire human race has teats and they can and do produce milk. Normally a man doesn't produce milk, but there are many instances where men have breast fed babies. (google it.)

There are so many lies told about this stuff that it is extremely hard to have a rational discussion about it. Go to a La Leche League meeting. I've told you that my first kid was twins, and she had two breasts. She didn't do as well for the twins as she did on the other two kids, but she did do it. One of my favorite pictures of my beautiful (ex-wife) is her with a baby on each breast.

One other thing I forgot to add. Human babies are often allergic to "Cow's Milk." The twins were Lactose Intolerant when they were switched off of breast milk. I have never heard of a baby being allergic to Mother's Milk. Believe me, if we had known about that my ex-wife would have breast fed the twins with cracked bleeding nipples. They were allergic to Cow's milk, goat's milk, Soy milk, any formula, but not Mother's Milk. We finally had to feed them finely ground steak, or they would have died. You don't want to know about "explosive vomiting" from a lactose intolerant baby, let alone a set of twins. They would expel formula over 16 feet.

She often breastfed in public, though she usually covered that shoulder with a diaper so people wouldn't stare. She was a 34A when she wasn't pregnant, but went to a 44D while breast feeding. She rather liked that.

Since she had to carry those things around her whole life, she really appreciated being able to use them for what they were intended. Don't ever let people make you ashamed of your body. If you do, it reflects on you, not on them. (They are just being stupid, you should know better, because I just said so.) Besides, other than making $750.00 a day for flashing them in a strip club, what are you going to use them for? Really good ones only get better in the sunlight... Turns them a beautiful copper color. Makes the freckles stand out. Everybody loves to count freckles, don't they? God I love to play "Connect the dots!"

kingdumbass
07-08-2006, 11:40 AM
The answer you won't find there is that Human breast milk is extremely sweet tasting. And every father has tasted it I suspect.


Ah-HA!
I KNEW it!

hasselbrad
07-08-2006, 12:56 PM
Maybe some of u have heard about the Nestlé baby milk facts.
Yeah, I have. This was an issue nine years ago when my ex was pregnant with Taylor. Nestle was flat-out lying to these women in third world countries, telling them that their babies wouldn't be as healthy if they were breastfed. It's despicable. The really ridiculous thing about it is the fact, that in many cases, Nestle is killing the "consumer" they've just created. You have to mix the formula with water. Many babies died from infections because of the unsanitary water that the formula was mixed with.

Oh...and be sure to check out comment #111 on the link Leonie provided. That guy sure is smart. ;)

Leah
12-08-2006, 04:24 AM
People are such dumbasses. That's adorable not offensive.

kingdumbass
12-08-2006, 07:05 AM
[Steven Colbert] Breast feeding is a form of cannibalism! [/Steven Colbert]

*EDIT: For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, Steven Colbert is an American television personality who hosts a show called "The Colbert Report", which is basically a satire of various right-wing political pundit programs. On Thursday's episode, he talked about the same controversy that is the topic of this thread, and made the "cannibalism" comment. It was, of course, supposed to be a joke.

Jacoby
12-08-2006, 11:47 AM
[Steven Colbert] Breast feeding is a form of cannibalism! [/Steven Colbert]

*EDIT: For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, Steven Colbert is an American television personality who hosts a show called "The Colbert Report", which is basically a satire of various right-wing political pundit programs. On Thursday's episode, he talked about the same controversy that is the topic of this thread, and made the "cannibalism" comment. It was, of course, supposed to be a joke.

Funny... but still not as funny as this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uZsy6Y58Z4)

Swordsman
12-08-2006, 06:07 PM
That segment was so goddamn funny. Although i think Stephen Colbert yelling at Jon Stewart to apologize to Geraldo is even better.

dave
23-08-2006, 11:05 PM
Check here for the answer to most of your questions. http://www.laleche.com/

There are so many lies told about this stuff that it is extremely hard to have a rational discussion about it. Go to a La Leche League meeting.

The FreeNewMexican ran a story about this stuff (http://www.freenewmexican.com/mothersuncensored)

So, kids, here are more nursing mothers, proud and beautiful. Fully functional females. The La Leche League is usually listed in your telephone directory or at your {lamaze|lamaz} classes. Do as much to help your children as you can, Nurse Your Children.

Fancyman
25-08-2006, 12:39 AM
The only timesoemone breastfeeding made me unconfortable, was when my aunt whipped out her bid ole tats to breast feed my cousin. she proceeded to have a conversation with me so i had to look at her and try so goddam hard not to look. (car wreck kind of thing, im not THAT perverted, usually.) Anyway, sadly, this is the direction the US has been going for quite some time, the slow political correctness movement spreading and smothering all of the citizens who dont undyingly (i wrote this word "undyingly, laughed at myself and left it for your enjoyment.) follow the right wing, christian way of thinking.

dave
06-11-2006, 07:14 AM
Breast feeding has definite benefits, but Dumbass, actually many babies do have allergies that require them to use formula. For example a lactose intolerant baby can't breastfeed, they have to have soy milk, and until women's breasts begin offering a "soy" option that'll have to come from formula.

http://www.deaf-culture-online.com/breastfeeding.html

Again, Lactose-Intolerance is almost always Cow-Milk-Intolerance.

Ranman
07-11-2006, 11:05 PM
How did I ever miss this thread...
Guys don't like to see breast feeding because
it makes us horny and guilty at the same time.
Its like wine and beer, they dont mix well.
As for me, Breast feeding is fine. In fact
Its a good time to teach the kid to share.
(move over kid, gimme one of those all day suckers)

dave
20-11-2006, 11:45 AM
The FreeNewMexican ran a story about this stuff (http://www.freenewmexican.com/mothersuncensored)

So, kids, here are more nursing mothers, proud and beautiful. Fully functional females. The La Leche League is usually listed in your telephone directory or at your {lamaze|lamaz} classes. Do as much to help your children as you can, Nurse Your Children.

Here's another "nipple glimpse" (http://www.unassistedchildbirth.com/miscarticles/milkmen.html) for those of you who are still wondering about nursing, but too shy to google it to see the pictures... :icon_rofl