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Ranman
03-05-2006, 10:11 PM
Being against the death penalty myself
I have mixed feeling on this.
The death penalty is suppose to be
the ultimate suffering. I'm not sure
that is the case here. Moussaoui probably
believes he will recieve 72 virgins when
he gets to Heaven. Well there will be a
pit stop before that happens. Its called
prison, and I'm sure when the first 72 inmates
beat the Hell out of him and rape him, he might
have a change of heart. I think he deserves the
ultimate sentence and I believe he got it.

Mandy
03-05-2006, 10:12 PM
*Off-Topic* What's up with your posts?
I dont
get it.
And I
don't
know
who
that
guy
is.

Ranman
03-05-2006, 10:23 PM
The so called 20th hijacker on 9/11

hasselbrad
03-05-2006, 11:03 PM
I am pro death...abortion...death penalty...whatever.
That said, I'm glad he wasn't executed. Ron White hits the nail on the head when he says (and I'm paraphrasing) that the Islamic terrorists are prepared to die for their beliefs. They are not prepared, however, to lick grape jelly out of Thunderdick's butt crack for the rest of their life.

I say we hook the motherfucker up to life support and keep him alive indefinitely.

Swordsman
03-05-2006, 11:36 PM
This dude is a scumbag, and that guy wanted to die and i think we did the right thing by keeping him alive. For some reason it seems like he thinks he won though mainly when he said "America you lost, and I won".

Liam
04-05-2006, 12:39 AM
I assume he was yelling that because he feels that America was too cowardly to bite the bullet and execute him. Execution in this mans case will only bolster his cause by creating a martyr out of him.

I'm sure the reality of his situation will set in when he gets a look at his inmates for the first time and realises that for the rest of his natural life, he will be playing according to their rules.

Ashley
04-05-2006, 01:10 AM
I agree with all of you. I was glad he didn't get the death penalty that would have been not only the easy way out, but actually what he wanted. He's not even a person, and hopefully will soon realize that he's the one that lost. I think it's the first time I've actually wanted someone to go through a lot of suffering in prison.

BrunoJA
04-05-2006, 01:42 AM
You people are sick.

Ranman
04-05-2006, 02:06 AM
Why are we sick?

BrunoJA
04-05-2006, 02:42 AM
"The death penalty is suppose to be the ultimate suffering."

"Its called prison, and I'm sure when the first 72 inmates beat the Hell out of him and rape him, he might have a change of heart."

"They are not prepared, however, to lick grape jelly out of Thunderdick's butt crack for the rest of their life."

"I say we hook the motherfucker up to life support and keep him alive indefinitely."

"He's not even a person..."

No wonder our country is so fucked up.

Ranman
04-05-2006, 02:47 AM
You need a sensitivity class

BrunoJA
04-05-2006, 03:07 AM
What be that?

Mandy
04-05-2006, 03:32 AM
You need a sensitivity class

AND Hooked on Phonics.

BrunoJA
04-05-2006, 03:33 AM
Why do you say that?

Bait
04-05-2006, 06:00 AM
i'm glad he didnt get death penalty either

and i agree with bruno, you people are sick...licking grape jelly out of a guys asshole? thats fucking disgusting! come on he's already going to be pounded in the ass for the rest of his life and hopefully beat to a bloody pulp but atleast let him get strawberry jelly...


i wish i was in charge of punishment i'd implement the meat hook and other various exciting methods of torture and death penalties...seriously euthanasia is pussy shit make them drink a bottle of rubbing alcohol or something

BrunoJA
04-05-2006, 06:19 AM
And people were surprised by reports of torture in places like Guantanamo Bay?

Liam
04-05-2006, 07:12 AM
No, we werent.

Leonie
04-05-2006, 07:17 AM
Anyone having ever heard of that Zimbardo experiment with students for both prisoners and keepers could have known what would happen, both in Abu Graib or whatever the fuck it's called, and in Guantanamo Bay. What's worse, Zimbardo warned the American government that as soon as prisoners are turned into numbers, all bets are off.

kingdumbass
04-05-2006, 07:32 AM
The death penalty doesn't mean anything, one way or another....
As George Carlin says, all it does is satisfy a sort of Biblical need for revenge. With that in mind, why not just execute the bastard? It might make some of the 9-11 victims' families feel just a little bit better for a few moments. Meaningless in a real world sense, but what does it matter?

OR, we could just let him go free, as long as he says he's sorry. An apology can go a long way, you know. :)

BrunoJA
04-05-2006, 08:05 AM
No, we werent.
Aussies don't count. :D

And yes, some people were. I certainly wasn't, but it was seen as some kind of shock to the American people.

Leonie
04-05-2006, 08:25 AM
Any psychologist with half a brain could have spelled out exactly what was going to happen. It's sad they weren't listened to. You can't even really 'blame' the torturers in the Iraqi prisons - its partly a psychologically explicable process.

The experiment I mentioned ended up being broken off after about four days, because the guards were torturing their class mates without remorse, and 'prisoners' started to crash. I think at least one of them ended up in a psychiatric hospital. If this can happen between class mates, because they are reduced to numbers, what do you think will happen when you stick a bunch of soldiers as guards in a prison, tell them Iraqis suck and you will show them how democracy works, and give them all a shiny overall?

kingdumbass
04-05-2006, 08:35 AM
Yes, I've read about the experiment....
It's fascinating.

Foeni
04-05-2006, 09:25 AM
These terrorists deserve the worst kind of punishment for their actions. As a lot have said, and they're right, the death penalty isn't punishment form a mulism fighting a holy war- Jihad. Being smashed up and raped is. That these things happen in prison, isn't of course the best thing in a democracy, but it happens. Therefor the punishment was right. Killing him is too easy.

About Guantanamo, of course there's torture. Under normal circumstances we can't defend torture, but this is a very special situation. I believe that the biggest mistakes made in Guantanamo is that they're not sure enough that they're actually terrorists. When it comes to terrorists, I wouldn't like to see any mercy shown. Do whatever it takes to get the information you know they have. But they should be better at sorting who's a terrorist and who's not.

Leonie
04-05-2006, 09:44 AM
That post makes you seem very ignorant and hypocritical, not to mention a Western double-standard bastard. Just thought I'd let you know.

"Torture is bad! (Unless we decide they're special circumstances - after all, we don't even know if they're guilty, let's torture!)"

"Sure, we put people in prisons for rape and assault, but hey, it happens in prisons, big deal, tough luck for the terrorist, serves him right."

Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ.

Foeni
04-05-2006, 10:06 AM
I konw it seems weird, but the difference between using hard interogation with a normal criminal and a terrorist, is that with a normal criminal the crime has happened and that's it. Terrorists are normally members of a larger group and might therefor hold information on this group and planned attacks. If you can save 200 people's lifes by torturing a known terrorist (and as I've specified, we need to be a hell of a lot more sure than we are now), then so be it.

We all know that prisons aren't the most peaceful spots on earth. I'm not defending that, I'm merely stating a fact. What I wrote may have sounded wrong (pardon my English). They shouldn't be sentenced to jail instead of death because of what happens in most prisons. They should be sentenced to jail time because death isn't a penalty. But I can't feel any compassion with them being raped and beaten up.

Hope it clears up what I believe in and seems just a little less:

That post makes you seem very ignorant and hypocritical, not to mention a Western double-standard bastard. Just thought I'd let you know.

deviljet88
04-05-2006, 11:00 AM
They'd better make sure he doesn't suicide in jail.

Leonie
04-05-2006, 11:01 AM
He wouldn't: no 72 virgins if you commit suicide.

Ranman
04-05-2006, 11:06 AM
After what he's about to go thru, I almost hope
he gets his 72 virgins.....Almost

deviljet88
04-05-2006, 11:19 AM
You have to take someone out while you're suiciding for the virgins? Eww.

Ranman
04-05-2006, 11:21 AM
What are you babling about? (the future mr, Moussaoui if you dont get laid soon)

Leonie
04-05-2006, 11:26 AM
Yeah, committing suicide just to get yourself out of a bad situation doesn't count, it has to be an act of heroism of sorts.

hasselbrad
04-05-2006, 01:18 PM
Jesus Tap Dancing Christ..."licking grape jelly out of Thunderdick's butt crack" is part of a comedy routine.
Com-e-dy.

Though, I wouldn't mind it if it he was forced to.

And, as for us being sick fucks, no one on this board conspired to fly airplanes full of innocent people into buildings full of innocent people.

Jacoby
04-05-2006, 01:48 PM
Aussies don't count. :D

And yes, some people were. I certainly wasn't, but it was seen as some kind of shock to the American people.

Because America is a happy, fluffy place where nothing is wrong and everything runs smoothly.

No seriously, we rock. We totally won the Vietnam war, Columbus was generous during Thanksgiving with the Indians, and Nixon didn't have anything to do with Watergate. F'realz.


(No one was shocked.)

I agree with the sentence. He won't see it comin'.
I hope for his sake he's quite social, so he makes friends behind bars. It's really more of a social club than a prison. He'll be fine.

Keira lover
07-07-2007, 02:17 AM
We should torture him for info, then torture him some more, then tie him in a chair in a room filled with family members of 9/11 victims, give them some bats, knives, and other weapons, and let them loose. Then show the body all over the world as a message to the islamofacists that there are no virgins, just this, and then throw the body into the east river. Fuck the ACLU and the UN (wich is really the United [Anti-American] Nations).

Keira lover
07-07-2007, 02:21 AM
Because America is a happy, fluffy place where nothing is wrong and everything runs smoothly.

No seriously, we rock. We totally won the Vietnam war, Columbus was generous during Thanksgiving with the Indians, and Nixon didn't have anything to do with Watergate. F'realz.


(No one was shocked.)

I agree with the sentence. He won't see it comin'.
I hope for his sake he's quite social, so he makes friends behind bars. It's really more of a social club than a prison. He'll be fine.

Nixon covered it up, he did not know in advance. the belief that Colombus was nice to Indians should be credited to our fucked up public schools, and Vietnam ended because of political pressure from the American-Hating, pacifistic, totally misinformed democrates and because Nixon knew we had to. Stop it, dems. JFK started Nam.

Keira lover
07-07-2007, 02:23 AM
Yeah, committing suicide just to get yourself out of a bad situation doesn't count, it has to be an act of heroism of sorts.

heroism, u mean mass murder, I hope?

Keira lover
07-07-2007, 02:36 AM
That post makes you seem very ignorant and hypocritical, not to mention a Western double-standard bastard. Just thought I'd let you know.

"Torture is bad! (Unless we decide they're special circumstances - after all, we don't even know if they're guilty, let's torture!)"

"Sure, we put people in prisons for rape and assault, but hey, it happens in prisons, big deal, tough luck for the terrorist, serves him right."

Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ.

I got news. WE ARE AT WAR. FDR through dissenters in jail. Lincoln suspended habueas corpus, stifled the press, etc. Wilson detained dissenters. John Adams had the alien-sedition acts, Jefferson started a trade embargo with the entire world, need I go on. we are at war. we ca not treat these islamofacists like everyday criminals. We have 2 choices:

kill ourselves
or fight like hell for what we hold dear and sacred. We can win, or we can die. My friend, these are the times that try men's souls. So I ask you, all of you, would you rather die (or live under sharia law, in which, you'd be executed as an infidel) or would you rather fight. I know my answer, but I gove it to a great man to say for me:

'I have nothing to offer but blood, toil, tears, and sweat.' We have before us an ordeal of the most grievous kind. We have before us many, many long months of struggle and suffering. You ask, what is our policy? I can say: It is to wage war, by sea, land and air, with all our might and with all the strength that God can give us: to wage war against a monstrous tyranny, never surpassed in the dark, lamentable catalogue of human crime. That is our policy. You ask, what is our aim? I can answer in one word: It is victory, victory at all costs, victory in spite of all terror, victory, however long and hard the road may be; for without victory, there is no survival.

now what is your choice: victory or death.

Digital_Ice
07-07-2007, 03:30 AM
you have got to be kidding me.... not only do you bump three threads that were last posted in in 2004.... you then double post in one... and quadruple post in another??

do that again... and I will ban you.

Leonie
07-07-2007, 10:11 AM
heroism, u mean mass murder, I hope?

1. Don't take things out of context. I was explaining the Islamic 72 virgins arrangement. Obviously, to them, it is an act of heroism. Don't be stupid.

2. There is no excuse for torturing innocent people. Given the extreme accuracy with which you have carried out the war in Iraq so far, you'll have to forgive me if I don't trust your bad-guy-detector skills, especially not if you're methods of finding truth are carried out behind closed doors, without the rest of the Western world getting a look in. You are not God. Deal with it.

3. There are better ways of getting the truth out of someone than hurting them until they crack. Any confessions forged by pain are useless to us. Hurt a man enough and he will tell you whatever you want to hear. I know this would help the Bush administration greatly, since they'll claw at any straw they can find, but in the real world, the information is most likely useless. Ironically, they won't listen when someone is telling them "Oi, the weapons of mass destruction are there. No, there. That's it. Yeah, end of that road." Depriving people of company and light is a somewhat acceptable means in my opinion. That doesn't quite cross over into the realm of torture. Actively hurting them is despicable, and that includes depriving people of sleep for a prolonged stretch of time, which will drive any normal person insane.

4. By behaving in as low a way as the supposed terrorists, we lose any moral high ground we may claim to have. 9/11 killed an awful number of people, there's no denying that. It was horrible, uncalled for and so many other things. I wouldn't like to start counting the number of people that have died in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so far, though. Normal people like you and me, caught in the crossfire. What gives us the right?

AND don't double post. If you were the last one to post and no one has responded, you may not post again. You are free to edit your previous post, though.