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kingdumbass
24-03-2006, 05:36 AM
I fucking hate doctors....
Yeah, yeah -- they save our lives, but they're also a bunch of asshole crooks. I just had to pay 125 dollars to some piece of shit doctor for 15 minutes of his time (that's 15 minutes of his time after waiting around for an hour, mind you). That's right -- I had a cough, and all I needed was an antibiotic. Fairly simply stuff. But to GET that antibiotic, I had to sit around with some nurse for 15 minutes, getting my blood pressure and weight checked FOR NO REASON, and then I had to wait forever for the damn doc himself to ask me a few questions, so he could take three seconds to scribble his name onto a piece of paper. Yeah, that takes a lot of effort: writing out a little slip of paper. I am so impressed with his skills, and certainly feel that the experience was well worth my 125 dollars!

The bastard is nothing but a drug pusher in a white coat.

I should have gotten into the medical field when I was younger. It's the ultimate scam. I could have become filthy rich!

Liam
24-03-2006, 06:09 AM
I recently switched doctors. I didnt have a problem with my old doctor at all - he was a legend - but he was on leave when I had to bring in test results, and my new doctor seems friendlier and more thorough.

$125 seems a bit much. Costs me $46 here but I get $33 back from the health system so I'm only out of pocket 13 bucks. The standard of care at my local practice is top notch so I dont mind paying.

All medical school teaches young doctors is how to turn their legible writing into the heiroglyphics we get on prescriptions.

Mandy
24-03-2006, 06:19 AM
Chriopractors are the ones that get to me. I was paying $40 bucks for a 30 second visit for someone to pop my back in a few places. I could've paid a homeless bum $5 to do it.

Ashley
24-03-2006, 09:07 AM
Chriopractors are the ones that get to me. I was paying $40 bucks for a 30 second visit for someone to pop my back in a few places. I could've paid a homeless bum $5 to do it.

Or a 40oz bottle of Mickey's.

Chiropractors freak me out... my back feels better from accupuncture than from a standard Chiro.

calereneau
24-03-2006, 11:48 AM
I went to a doctor last year because I had horrible pains in my abdomen and chest. He told my I had heartburn and to grab some Prilosec and Mylanta and call him in two weeks if it hadn't gotten better. I was rushed to the ER the next day because my appendix was inflamed (a little more than heartburn or indegestion, doc). Best part: He was a consultant doctor on my case and he billed us an extra $150 for consulting with the doctors that actually worked on me.

THIEVES!

hasselbrad
24-03-2006, 12:46 PM
I went to a doctor last year because I had horrible pains in my abdomen and chest. He told my I had heartburn and to grab some Prilosec and Mylanta and call him in two weeks if it hadn't gotten better. I was rushed to the ER the next day because my appendix was inflamed (a little more than heartburn or indegestion, doc). Best part: He was a consultant doctor on my case and he billed us an extra $150 for consulting with the doctors that actually worked on me.

THIEVES!

I'm not normally an advocate for litigation, but you might want to talk to an attorney.

Digital_Ice
24-03-2006, 01:15 PM
I don't do doctors unless i absolutly have to, I don't even take paraz for a headache...

...but the more i read about the USA ripping you off... the more i like the NHS

michael22
24-03-2006, 01:45 PM
Canadian health care yay
still doctors hate you more

ryan
24-03-2006, 01:49 PM
insurance

Foeni
24-03-2006, 02:19 PM
We have a health care system. You only pay for dentists and plastic surgeons and stuff like that. Normal doctors is all payed by taxes.

calereneau
24-03-2006, 02:27 PM
I'm not normally an advocate for litigation, but you might want to talk to an attorney.

In the end, my dad opted to pay the bills after the 6 days I spent in the hospital for that little situation. I figured he could deal with it if he wanted to. I'm sure it was an honest mistake, but then again the guy just listened to my description and diagnosed it....without any other tests or hands on stuff. You're probably right, but I'm not one for litigation either.

marine
24-03-2006, 02:52 PM
[QUOTE=Digital_Ice]I don't do doctors unless i absolutly have to, I don't even take paraz for a headache...

/QUOTE]

same here, last I went it was 3 years ago, for a certificate saying I'm good for sport practice and it was about 25 euros for the doctor to write I was fit without any exams, I thought it was ok.

hasselbrad
24-03-2006, 07:08 PM
insurance

$10.00 copay on office visits and prescriptions. $20.00 if there is no generic.

Jacoby
24-03-2006, 07:35 PM
I'm out of a health care provider come April 2nd. Because I dropped down to a part-time student, I can no longer be covered under my father's health care after I turn 19 (less than 2 weeks.) Basically, I'm fucked. I had plans on getting my wisdom teeth removed this summer. That's out of the question now. I won't have health care until late August when I become a full-time student. I'll have to find some way to at least get a little coverage because I don't want to, as my dad suggested, "just take it easy this summer and don't worry about the health insurance." I mean, I don't go to the doctor's often, but I don't want to be out with my friends and concerned about breaking a bone or catching some type of treatable sickness.

So. Anyone have some suggestions for me?

As for the original post...$125 is a lot. Under my dad's provider, it's 15 a visit.

Liam
24-03-2006, 08:52 PM
When I travelled, I knew I was going to be overseas for around 18 months total, so I took out an 18 month policy. It was pricey-ish (around $1700, if I remember rightly), but the peace of mind - knowing that if I was hit by a road train and wound up in some Dutch hospital I could afford to pay the bills - was worth the initial outlay.

Of course, nothing happened though.

I'm sure that if you go into some reputable insurer and explain the situation they will add you to the coverage policy for a certain fee. Its only a 5 month gap so the price shouldnt be hugely exorbitant. Paying the fee is better than the worry, trust me.

KaBeth
24-03-2006, 09:41 PM
What how would the insurance company know you dropped down to a part-time student I had the same situation when for a semester I dropped a class and was no longer full-time but I was still covered because they only check once a year for coverage in August...

Oh and the anti-biotic is usually just to make sure you don't get a secondary infection. Most people when they go into the doctors don't really need it.

once_dreaded
24-03-2006, 10:51 PM
Dude! That doc needs a good arse whipping. When I had abdomen pain I went to a clinic across from work...the doc checked my abdomen and stated that it could be appendicitis or ovarian cyst he immediately sent me over to the ER at the local hospital. I was poked, prodded, x-rayed, and ultra-sounded before they decided it was my appendix and needed to opperate. I went into the clinic at 9am...over to ER at 9:45...surgery at 1:30pm. Then I was stuck in the hospital for four days. My only complaint was that my IV wasn't changed out of my hand when it started itching like crazy...that and the damn tv only played Disney channel if you didn't want to watch soaps...I'll never watch Rolie Polie Ollie again!

deviljet88
25-03-2006, 12:49 AM
My mum's a doctor, so hurt :'(

Then again, we've got Bulk Billing here so under most circumstances, a problem which a General Practitioner sorts out doesn't cost anything... besides taxes I think? I know it definitely doesn't get as suckky as $125 though, poor you.

calereneau
25-03-2006, 01:59 AM
Dude! That doc needs a good arse whipping. When I had abdomen pain I went to a clinic across from work...the doc checked my abdomen and stated that it could be appendicitis or ovarian cyst he immediately sent me over to the ER at the local hospital. I was poked, prodded, x-rayed, and ultra-sounded before they decided it was my appendix and needed to opperate. I went into the clinic at 9am...over to ER at 9:45...surgery at 1:30pm. Then I was stuck in the hospital for four days. My only complaint was that my IV wasn't changed out of my hand when it started itching like crazy...that and the damn tv only played Disney channel if you didn't want to watch soaps...I'll never watch Rolie Polie Ollie again!


Yeah.....that sounds better. Even if there was Disney channel. I had to watch *gulp* Along Came Polly and The Whole Ten Yards.

Kelsey
25-03-2006, 05:15 AM
I don't have health insurance at the moment, so...I hate doctors too. I just really hope I don't have to see one in the near future. :/

Jacoby
25-03-2006, 06:22 AM
When I travelled, I knew I was going to be overseas for around 18 months total, so I took out an 18 month policy. It was pricey-ish (around $1700, if I remember rightly), but the peace of mind - knowing that if I was hit by a road train and wound up in some Dutch hospital I could afford to pay the bills - was worth the initial outlay.

Of course, nothing happened though.

I'm sure that if you go into some reputable insurer and explain the situation they will add you to the coverage policy for a certain fee. Its only a 5 month gap so the price shouldnt be hugely exorbitant. Paying the fee is better than the worry, trust me.

Yeah, I'm thinking the peace of mind will be worth whatever monthly fee I end up paying. I found out my work has health care options, so I'll do some program through them. And you're right, since it's only 5 months, there's no big problem. Hopefully not too pricey, but it's just something I gotta look into for myself.

What how would the insurance company know you dropped down to a part-time student I had the same situation when for a semester I dropped a class and was no longer full-time but I was still covered because they only check once a year for coverage in August...

This spring semester is my first at college. So I'm going through getting all the health care and everything set up, all the paperwork. And at some point my dad's health provider notified us with the awesome news that I wouldn't be covered and that I'll have my very own responsibilities.

But I'll most definitely go the route Liam did. Better safe than sorry.

BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY, KELSEY!

Sandra
25-03-2006, 10:17 AM
I'm shocked to hear how much you pay for so little in the US.

My father recently spend almost a month in hospital recovering from a stroke and we didn't have to pay anything. We pay for all of that through taxes.
It's kinda scary to hear that you don't have a healt system like that in the US, considering the US looks like (from the outside) one of the best places on earth.

I recently saw a piece on 60Minutes about hospitals overcharging pasients that aren't insured. Some dude was billed 10 times more than someone that was insured. Shocking.

But yes, I hate doctors aswell. And stay well aware from them. A friend of mine is a medical student has somewhat demystified doctors for me.

ryan
25-03-2006, 02:38 PM
I'm shocked to hear how much you pay for so little in the US.

My father recently spend almost a month in hospital recovering from a stroke and we didn't have to pay anything. We pay for all of that through taxes.
It's kinda scary to hear that you don't have a healt system like that in the US, considering the US looks like (from the outside) one of the best places on earth.

I recently saw a piece on 60Minutes about hospitals overcharging pasients that aren't insured. Some dude was billed 10 times more than someone that was insured. Shocking.

But yes, I hate doctors aswell. And stay well aware from them. A friend of mine is a medical student has somewhat demystified doctors for me.


you pay insane amounts in taxes; we do not.
we have to go out and choose a health plan we want to pay for and then pay for it out of pocket. it's not automatically deducded from our pay checks like taxes.

it all works out, really.

once_dreaded
25-03-2006, 08:47 PM
I don't remember the title but he ends up playing himself trapped in a rich white guy's body...the dude owns a hospital that is considering denying services to poor people & those without insurance. Here's a quote when Chris got going on the subject:

"They shouldn't call it insurance...they should call it "In-case-shit-happens." You're paying for it in-case-shit-happens, what if it doesn't...shouldn't you get the money back?"

HELL YEAH!!!!

calereneau
25-03-2006, 09:32 PM
Head of State? Ouch!

once_dreaded
25-03-2006, 11:06 PM
Nope...but Head of State was funny

Now it's going to bug me that I don't know what movie it is *ARGH*

kingdumbass
25-03-2006, 11:17 PM
The entire system is corrupt and broken....
Even if we had a socialised health care system here in the US, our worthless politicians would not allow it to run properly. It would be just as terrible as the current system, if not worse. Our "leaders" have no spine or integrity whatsoever. I put them on the same level as prostitutes. Piece of shit scumbags.

Garbage in, garbage out, as they say....

calereneau
26-03-2006, 01:47 PM
Nope...but Head of State was funny

Now it's going to bug me that I don't know what movie it is *ARGH*


Down to Earth...


...something that doctors are not.

Renegade
26-03-2006, 02:40 PM
Did you know dentists have the highest suicide rate? Oh wait, doctors thread. Um, doctors scare me because they see death a lot of the time. Death= scary.

hasselbrad
26-03-2006, 05:25 PM
The entire system is corrupt and broken....
Even if we had a socialised health care system here in the US, our worthless politicians would not allow it to run properly. It would be just as terrible as the current system, if not worse. Our "leaders" have no spine or integrity whatsoever. I put them on the same level as prostitutes. Piece of shit scumbags.

Garbage in, garbage out, as they say....

Exactly. Politicians already have too much control over our daily lives. I, for one, do not want to rely on the same federal government that could fuck up a steel ball for my healthcare. Politicians would inject so much pork barrel spending into the system, it would collapse on itself.
You're right on the money about integrity, but I disagree when it comes to spine. It takes a titanium reinforced, carbon-fiber spine to pull off the shit Randy "Duke" Cunningham did. ;)

Mandy
26-03-2006, 06:30 PM
I heard dentists have the highest suicidal rate.

Foeni
27-03-2006, 07:05 PM
except for kingdumbass and yep our social care system may take care of al those costs, but we have to pay a lot more taxes than usa citizens. For example if I would work for a boss and earn 10 dollar an hour it would cost to my boss 25 dollar an hour, due all the extra taxes and other costs. We also have a VAT of 21%...

Our VAT is 25%% and my income taxes are roughly 40%, and that's the lowest value you can get. So I definately pay my part to all the hypochondriacs. The great thing about having a social health care system is that everyone can go see a doctor, no matter their income. The bad thing about it is that people go see a doctor every time they get a little scratch. Not having a health care system lowers the taxes, but the payment may scare away some really sick persons. The question is then, do we care for those? :P
Personally I'm for a system somewhere inbetween.

hasselbrad
27-03-2006, 07:41 PM
There are health clinics that are run by local municipalities here that provide health care, free of charge to those who need it. Most cities in America have hospitals that provide indigent care as well. Here in Tampa, that hospital is Tampa General Hospital. TGH is also the hospital you go to when you are well insured and need a quadruple bypass, so there isn't an issue of substandard care.
And, as far as children are concerned, the Shriners Hospitals (http://www.shrinershq.org/) provide medical care to them regardless of their ability to pay. I believe that St. Judes Hospital in Memphis does likewise. Many private charities do this sort of work to make sure healthcare is available to anyone who needs it, without relying on the government.

Kelsey
27-03-2006, 10:03 PM
Yeah, if you get stuck in the hospital without insurance, you end up personally paying (I think it's about) eight times more than an insured person's insurance company would pay.

So Jacoby, you seem to be in the same boat I am in. I'm not a full time college student, and even though I work full time, I haven't been at my job long enough to get their coverage. I guess this was sort of a bad time to bring a trailor load of baby horses right off the race track home for re-training.

Jacoby
27-03-2006, 10:42 PM
So Jacoby, you seem to be in the same boat I am in. I'm not a full time college student, and even though I work full time, I haven't been at my job long enough to get their coverage. I guess this was sort of a bad time to bring a trailor load of baby horses right off the race track home for re-training.


Yep, my situation exactly. You have to be at Blockbuster for a year, and I've only been there 8 months. I'm outta luck...gotta see what my other options are.

But yeah, be careful with those ponies.

Ashley
27-03-2006, 11:05 PM
I'm taking an extra semester of classes just so I can have insurance and make money before I move. It would freak me out if I didn't have any insurance, I'm a tad accident prone.