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Richard
11-07-2004, 11:23 PM
Keeping in theme with the other thread, I thought I'd create something similar but more interesting "for me". If there's anything I hate more is to watch a movie that I really liked, then later while doing research on the film, finding out that it bombed in the box-office. I for one can create a huge list but I don't want to bore anyone. So, let's see how far this can go.

Over-rated movies:
Psycho
The Exorcist
The Sixth Sense (I might change my mind, because I only saw it once, and I can hardly remember a thing.)
My Big Fat Greek Wedding
Gladiator
School Of Rock
The Blair Witch Project

Under-rated movies:
Dead Man On Campus
The Return Of The Living Dead
The Time Machine (2002)
Last Action Hero
Office Space
Out Cold
The Poseidon Adventure
The Amityville Horror
The Fifth Element

Some might make sense, some won't. I actually had a more difficult time with this than I intended.

Hazzle
11-07-2004, 11:49 PM
I loved all your "over-rated" ones...but I shall refrain from killing you :D

Over-rated:
Titanic
Chicago
LOTR (all three)
The Matrix (the first one)
POTC (sorry, it is...not annoyingly so...but it is)
Independence Day (what a pile of shit)

Under-rated:
The Blair Witch Project (it gets so attacked these days)
The Matrix Reloaded (better than the original)
Clerks (Mallrats and Dogma get all the praise)
The Beach (I thought it was better than the press it got)
Spiderman (again, better than the press it got)
Mission Impossible (I loved it...second one not so sure)

Richard
12-07-2004, 12:04 AM
I loved all your "over-rated" ones...but I shall refrain from killing you :D

Over-rated:
Titanic
Chicago
LOTR (all three)
The Matrix (the first one)
POTC (sorry, it is...not annoyingly so...but it is)
Independence Day (what a pile of shit)

Under-rated:
The Blair Witch Project (it gets so attacked these days)
The Matrix Reloaded (better than the original)
Clerks (Mallrats and Dogma get all the praise)
The Beach (I thought it was better than the press it got)
Spiderman (again, better than the press it got)
Mission Impossible (I loved it...second one not so sure)

Well, I can agree with all of your "over-rated" picks. The exception would be "The Matrix", but then I later found out you thought the second one was better... which I can agree with. I was pretty surprised on how much money "Titanic" made in the box-office, but for some reason I want that movie to forever hold the title of being the number one movie of all-time. I'm glad you mentioned the LOTR trilogy first, I had that in mind but didn't have the balls to put it down without a good reason why. "ID4" is bullshit, and so is "Chicago". As for POTC, two long of a movie. At least not enough Keira scenes.

mufiman
12-07-2004, 12:15 AM
over-rated:
titanic
LOTR
a beautiful mind
the silence of the lambs
almost famous
kill bill [volumes 1 &2]
fargo
shrek
lost in translation

under-rated:
the insider
leon [the professional]
ed wood
dawn of the dead [the remake was awesome too]
heat
troy [i thought it was pretty good]
alien 3

that was hard to think of. may add more later.

Kelsey
12-07-2004, 06:41 AM
*Over Rated*
Shrek
Seabiscuit
Fahrenheit 9/11

*Under Rated*
A Far Off Place
Girl With a Pearl Earring
Manny & Lo

duckula
12-07-2004, 11:09 AM
Overated

Anything by Steven Spielberg

deviljet88
12-07-2004, 11:25 AM
Overated

Titanic
Matrix
LOTR
Psycho
The Exorcist
Gladiator

Spire
12-07-2004, 02:19 PM
All you people who put LotR as over-rated can die. And don't even get me started on how bad The Matrix sequels sucked.

Over-Rated:
Titanic
Shrek 1 & 2
Spiderman 1 & 2
Chicago
A Beautiful Mind

Under-Rated:
Kill Bill Vol. I & II (they just didn't get the attention they deserved)
Office Space
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels
The Professional
Boondock Saints

My Name
12-07-2004, 04:36 PM
ok, my first post, deep breath...

overrated:

Pitch Black
End of Days
All of the Jurassic parks
Independence Day
Matrix 2 & 3
Any James Bond film
xXx
Fast And The Furious
Godfather 2 & 3
Casino
Bowling For Columbine
Braveheart
Robin Hood
Terminator 2
All of the Scream's
Field Of Dreams

Underrated:

Last Of The Mohicans
Terminator 1
2 Fast 2 Furious
Arlington Road
Jacob's Ladder
Water World
Get Shorty
The 13th warrior
Only The Strong - Calssic!! :p
Cube
Ronin
The Untouchables
Spartacus


Big list eh, apologies for the boredom factor eh
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Richard
12-07-2004, 05:02 PM
*Over Rated*
Shrek
Seabiscuit
Fahrenheit 9/11

*Under Rated*
A Far Off Place
Girl With a Pearl Earring
Manny & Lo

"A Far Off Place"... the one with Reese Witherspoon. I always thought I was the only person that saw that movie. It was good, as I recall.

Kelsey
12-07-2004, 05:51 PM
"A Far Off Place"... the one with Reese Witherspoon. I always thought I was the only person that saw that movie. It was good, as I recall.

Yeah, Reese Witherspoon and Ethan Embry. One of my favorites. Glad to hear someone else knows what I'm talking about for once.

Object Of Affection
12-07-2004, 08:48 PM
Hm don't agree with alot of choices there

Overated,

Lost In Translation (it was good but come on)
Van Helsing (Stephen Sommers come on you can do better then that)
Underworld (<- Is this toliet paper to wipe my aRse with)
Gladiator (With Hard Ass and the sh-billon mistakes init)
Titanic (crap storyline amazing special FX. One of those films that everone was drugged to see)
Matrix reloaded and revolutions (I think fame got to the wachoiski brothers please stick with the first one)
THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW ( :(:(:( So dissapointing)


Underated,

Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind (Genius)
The Core (B-list cast but an A-list film)
Kill-bill 1-2 (deserved more)
Resovoir Dogs (come on america a classic)
28 Days Later (british and brilliant)
Troy (I thought it was good)
Lord Of The Rings 1-3 (just joking AMAZING role on directors cut of ROTK)
Scarface (GTA was born here)

There's load more can't think........

DefyingGravity
12-07-2004, 09:13 PM
Overrated--

Amelie(it was good, but it's overrated)
The Sound of Music
Grease

Underrated--

Spirited Away
The Green Mile
Gia
Girl, Interrupted
Igby Goes Down

MC117
12-07-2004, 09:34 PM
i dont know about the rest but the gladiator is one of my fav.

Sarika
12-07-2004, 10:51 PM
Overrated:
Spider Man - I'm not really one for super hero movies anyway
Pearl Harbor
Kill Bill
Lost in Translation
Gladiator - It was boring

Underrated:
King Arthur - I loved it
Troy - (the movie in itself) I don't think it was as bad as everybody says
Doctor Zhivago (Keira's version)

DragonRat
12-07-2004, 11:34 PM
Overrated:
Titanic
The Matrix Trilogy (well, fine, the first one was good)
Star Wars: Episode 1 - The Phantom Menace
Gladiator

Underrated:
Donnie Darko
Swingers
Rounders
Dumb & Dumber
The Boondock Saints

Renegade
12-07-2004, 11:43 PM
Overrated-
Fight Club (I admit, I did like the first 3/4 but the ending kinda got to me)
Meet the Parents
Spiderman

Underrated-
Dogma
28 Days Later

Richard
13-07-2004, 12:40 AM
Overrated-
Fight Club (I admit, I did like the first 3/4 but the ending kinda got to me)
Meet the Parents
Spiderman

Underrated-
Dogma
28 Days Later

Meet the parents is so over-rated. I had to deal with being called Gaylord Focker for 3 years. Apprantly it was a good resemblance to my last name, Faulkner. I don't see it.

Spire
13-07-2004, 01:01 AM
Overrated-
Fight Club (I admit, I did like the first 3/4 but the ending kinda got to me)
Meet the Parents
Spiderman

Underrated-
Dogma
28 Days Later

I've disagreed with a lot of the choices here, but saying Fight Club was over-rated is absolute madness. If anything, it's under-rated. It's pretty well-known and didn't do poorly at the box office, but it didn't do great either. It was fairly controversial and that fueled a lot of it's publicity. It's not my favorite movie ever, but it's pretty damn great. And what was wrong with the ending? (SPOILERS) What's wrong with seeing two people hold hands and fall into love while buildings explode and the finacial world crumbles in front of them?

Kyle_West
13-07-2004, 04:12 AM
Over-rated:
Chicago
A Beautiful Mind
Seabuiscut
Spiderman (Both sucked I thought)
All the Mummy movies (what a debacle, worst movies in history)
Men In Black
All Jackie Chan movies

Under-rated:
Lock Stock and Two smoking barrels
Jackie Brown
King Arthur (Of course)
The Hulk (Better than spidey I thought)
The Way of the Gun
Arlington Road

Office space has a massive fan base. It used to be under-rated, but now everyone loves it. But I guess its the same with Lock Stock.

Renegade
13-07-2004, 04:44 AM
I've disagreed with a lot of the choices here, but saying Fight Club was over-rated is absolute madness. If anything, it's under-rated. It's pretty well-known and didn't do poorly at the box office, but it didn't do great either. It was fairly controversial and that fueled a lot of it's publicity. It's not my favorite movie ever, but it's pretty damn great. And what was wrong with the ending? (SPOILERS) What's wrong with seeing two people hold hands and fall into love while buildings explode and the finacial world crumbles in front of them?

Fine. For me, it was marginally overrated. I didn't quite enjoy the ending as much as I would have if I hadn't figured it out. But I really did like the parts of the movie culminating towards the end, very well done. Hmmm, well then...it seems my view was a little biased...oh well :p

Ashlyn
13-07-2004, 07:37 AM
I can't think of many things to add here - most of mine have been said, but I will add Harriet The Spy to my underrated list, it's just too good. And overrated - Titanic and Troy need to be mentioned again.

Elijahfan
14-07-2004, 05:00 PM
wow, all the lists are good, in fact i'm going to rent some of them off line. well here's my lists (oviously its only the movies that come to mind at the moment)

overrated:
the terminal (steven spelberg movies basically)
troy (they just hyped it up for ticket sales)
chicago
intolerable cruelty (everything with george clooney right now makes me wanna puke)
same with oclean's 11, confessions of a dangerous mind. plus steven sodenberg keeps using the same actors! other people need jobs too, i just dont like seeing the same people over and over again, it's not new
the passion of the christ (i hated it's marketing ploy and mel gibson, some one needs to smack him, he thinks he's god)
the last samuari...recent tom cruise movies
titantic (most leonard dicapio movies)
charlies angels 1 and 2 (i hate cameron diaz, but lucy is awesome)
shrek 1 and 2 (mike meyers needs a new accent, it's always scottish and british, austin powers)
gangs of new york...though daniel day lewis was good

underrated:
donnie darko (more people are getting into it now, as with Office Space)
zoolander... everyone i know who's watched it liked it
the brotherhood of the wolf...more foreign (can't spell right now) films! also city of the lost children
28 days later (danny boyle genius behind transpotting)
memento, i dont care about the critics praise it recieved, more people need to rent it, and play it in the correct order (easter egg on dvd) it's just sad
to die for...it's freaking hilarious, same with cold mountain...i think i'm the only one who finds that movie funny

that's all i can think of for now

frodo1511
15-07-2004, 01:16 AM
Overrated movies:
Chicago,
Moulin Rogue,
Any Steven Spielberg movie (besides the original Jurassic Park)
The Matrix Reloaded/Revolutions,
Terminator 3,
Dawn of the Dead( the new one),
Titanic,
Troy,
Van Helsing,
Spidey 1&2, (along with all comic book movies)
Shrek series
POTC
Predator series,
Harry Potter series,
Rush Hour 2,
Friday series,


Underrated movies:
The Martix(sequals sucked),
Terminator 2,
28 Days Later,
The Last Samurai
Jurassic Park(again, because of it's sequals)
Underworld
King Arthur :)
Alien series(b/c of 3 and Ressurection)
Dodgeball,
Rush Hour,

Fine where they are:
LOTR(yes, many will critisize that choice...)
Gladiator,
Finding Nemo,
X-Men series,
Gremlins,
King Arthur(my opinion) :D

Hazzle
15-07-2004, 01:22 AM
Meh...get this straight...original Matrix was a pure action film covered ina thin vaneer of philosophy. The special effects weren't that awe-inspiring, but then I saw it late, so perhaps that's slightly affected my perspective...though that merely shows how easily the film dated.

Difference with Reloaded (for me the best of the three) is that the characters and philosophy had more depth to them, so they have, in my view, more staying power. When the original is finally seen as dated and average, Reloaded for me will survive for its superior script (not much superior, but better for sure). Character depth is something all three lacked, but Reloaded was the best in that regard.

As for Aliens...I think the entire series is class, from start to finish, each different in its own way. I enjoyed all four thoroughly...Resurrection was the poorest, 3 was decent, Aliens was awesome and Alien was a classic, better than Blade Runner in my view. However the series as a whole stands up in my view.

Richard
15-07-2004, 01:23 AM
Overrated movies:
Dawn of the Dead,
Predator series,

Underrated movies:
Terminator 2,

You're not talking about the original George Romero "Dawn Of The Dead", if anything that's under-rated. And "Predator", I don't know about you but the first one was classic. The second on the other-hand was a step down, but I was amused. Gary Busey & Danny Glover... are the reasons.

I don't think T2 was under-rated. It got huge buzz and did groundbreaking special effects for that time. Somebody will prove that.

Spire
15-07-2004, 01:35 AM
Meh...get this straight...original Matrix was a pure action film covered ina thin vaneer of philosophy. The special effects weren't that awe-inspiring, but then I saw it late, so perhaps that's slightly affected my perspective...though that merely shows how easily the film dated.

Difference with Reloaded (for me the best of the three) is that the characters and philosophy had more depth to them, so they have, in my view, more staying power. When the original is finally seen as dated and average, Reloaded for me will survive for its superior script (not much superior, but better for sure). Character depth is something all three lacked, but Reloaded was the best in that regard.

As for Aliens...I think the entire series is class, from start to finish, each different in its own way. I enjoyed all four thoroughly...Resurrection was the poorest, 3 was decent, Aliens was awesome and Alien was a classic, better than Blade Runner in my view. However the series as a whole stands up in my view.

The Matrix sequels philosphy is too overbearing and self-righteous. It's a blatent attempt at being a "smart" movie, and that's a big peeve of mine. A movie is either smart, or it isn't. Anything film that tries to be smart and fails (such as Reloaded) is extremely annoying. Nevermind all the morons who touted their intelligence because they thought they understood the "complex" plot of the movie, or all the religious references. And the action lacked any intensity. It was 90% CGI, and it showed.

And about Aliens, I agree completely. The original is such a classic film.

I don't think T2 was under-rated. It got huge buzz and seemed to change how films were made, I think. Somebody will prove it.

Agreed, T2 was a major step in film-making and one of the best films of the 90's.

Richard
15-07-2004, 01:49 AM
As for Aliens...I think the entire series is class, from start to finish, each different in its own way. I enjoyed all four thoroughly...Resurrection was the poorest, 3 was decent, Aliens was awesome and Alien was a classic, better than Blade Runner in my view. However the series as a whole stands up in my view.

I haven't seen any of the Alien films. Which is embarrassing due to the fact that I have seen a lot of the classic films from that genre. All of my friends have Alien on their top-ten list of scary movies, and I feel left out. Have you bought the Alien Quadrilogy set? Is it any good? Do you even know what I'm talking about? :o

frodo1511
15-07-2004, 01:53 AM
In my opinion, the predator series recieved less credit than the alien series. as for that, I kinda got a little:) confused in ressurection, with the whole alien/human hybrid, and the Ripley clones :eek: they were disgusting.

As for T2, it was a great movie, but for the generation who only saw T3 might get turned off, it wasn't as good as the first two.

For the Matrix, everyone all liked how it has a religious/spiritual story of survival, inner-strength, and the overall demise of human civilization. Most hated how the 2nd and 3rd has little story compared to the first one. They didn't like how it became so confusing("huh, who is this architect, train keeper, merrovingian, waah I want my mommy!!!) I had no problem with the sequals, they just didn't live up to the expectations of the original(kinda like a lot of sequals...)

frodo1511
15-07-2004, 01:55 AM
I haven't seen any of the Alien films. Which is embarrassing due to the fact that I have seen a lot of the classic films from that genre. All of my friends have Alien on their top-ten list of scary movies, and I feel left out. Have you bought the Alien Quadrilogy set? Is it any good? Do you even know what I'm talking about? :o

I don't have it, but my mom wants to get it(HUGE alien fan) I also laugh at all the people who bought the trilogy collection a year before the quadrilogy.
:D

Hazzle
15-07-2004, 01:57 AM
The Matrix sequels philosphy is too overbearing and self-righteous. It's a blatent attempt at being a "smart" movie, and that's a big peeve of mine. A movie is either smart, or it isn't. Anything film that tries to be smart and fails (such as Reloaded) is extremely annoying. Nevermind all the morons who touted their intelligence because they thought they understood the "complex" plot of the movie, or all the religious references. And the action lacked any intensity. It was 90% CGI, and it showed.


Well..if one takes your "either a movie is smart or it isn't" thing to its conclusion, why even introduce teletubbies philosophy into the first film? Seriously, I'm an amateur philosopher and it was TERRIBLY immature and naive. The second at least tried to delve deeper. Oh...and I got the philosophy...it wasn't complex, just better thought through and original...the "original" was anything but...its entire philosophy is rehashed Plato.

As for action...the action in the first film wasn't actually THAT amazing either...good...but meh...second actually got more points in my book for the use of CGI as it's actually a hard skill to use well, and I felt they had done superbly.

You're not talking about the original George Romero "Dawn Of The Dead", if anything that's under-rated.

Agreed.

CFC
15-07-2004, 02:02 AM
Overrated:
Titanic
Spiderman 1 and 2
Troy
Last Samurai
Anything by Michael Moore

Underrated:
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Memento
Boondock Saints
There are more, I just can't think of them right now.

Richard
15-07-2004, 02:02 AM
For the Matrix, everyone all liked how it has a religious/spiritual story of survival, inner-strength, and the overall demise of human civilization. Most hated how the 2nd and 3rd has little story compared to the first one. They didn't like how it became so confusing("huh, who is this architect, train keeper, merrovingian, waah I want my mommy!!!) I had no problem with the sequals, they just didn't live up to the expectations of the original(kinda like a lot of sequals...)

In my opinion, typical teenagers that saw that film probably only cared about the Kung-Fu, that and the CGI. For example, I remember asking my friends in school back when it was released and "everybody" seemed to like it. No matter how hard I try, I for one think that they have no idea what the matrix trilogy is about. It's kinda refreshing to actually see people debate about the storyline... so please debate.

Kyle_West
15-07-2004, 02:12 AM
Overrated:
Titanic
Spiderman 1 and 2
Troy
Last Samurai
Anything by Michael Moore

Underrated:
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Memento
Boondock Saints
There are more, I just can't think of them right now.

You couldn't be more right. I love boondock, lock stock, and I was just about to edit a post saying Memento. I hate spiderman, titanic, and troy. I liked Roger and Me from Michael Moore and the last samurai is good. But you have list I'd agree with most other than my own

frodo1511
15-07-2004, 02:36 AM
In my opinion, typical teenagers that saw that film probably only cared about the Kung-Fu, that and the CGI. For example, I remember asking my friends in school back when it was released and "everybody" seemed to like it. No matter how hard I try, I for one think that they have no idea what the matrix trilogy is about. It's kinda refreshing to actually see people debate about the storyline... so please debate.

Yeah, when the first one came out, all my friends and I only cared about the fighting, shooting and "bullet-time", since we were 11 when it came out, so of course we didn't get the story. But now that we're older, and saw both sequals together, we understood the story, and had arguments of "No, I was right..." for hours on end, and we still debate what it really means from time to time.

Hazzle
16-07-2004, 12:48 AM
Yeah, when the first one came out, all my friends and I only cared about the fighting, shooting and "bullet-time", since we were 11 when it came out, so of course we didn't get the story. But now that we're older, and saw both sequals together, we understood the story, and had arguments of "No, I was right..." for hours on end, and we still debate what it really means from time to time.

For me the spiritual aspects are overplayed, the survival thing has been done to death, inner strength...all sounds too bloody familiar...even the demise of human civilisation is unoriginal. I much prefer how in the second and third they actually bring in a nihilist streak with the multiple zions and how the "Chosen One" is a myth created by the system to work the system. It actually explains in a lot more depth the ONLY interesting aspect of the plot of the first film, which was the idea that human beings couldn't take a "perfect" matrix because we can't handle perfection. It explains the diversity of human experience, the contrast from person to person. I just think the first film's plot was SO unoriginal...can't see anything to like about it...at least the second and third had ORIGINAL aspects to them for a change. Sorry, but that's my take on it. At least the second and third built upon the platonic foundations of the first...read The Republic and you'll find that the cave analogy pretty much explains the entire concept behind the Matrix in the first film...a world where things are not what they seem, shadows of the truth, and where one person, able to see the true forms, able to see the light, so to speak, will come and tell people of the truth and lead them. Sound familiar?

Kelsey
16-07-2004, 05:27 AM
Overrated:
Anything by Michael Moore

Amen.

Adding more to the list:

Under-Rated:
- Bend It Like Beckham (In America at least...hardly anyone I ask has seen it, and those who have only saw it because I told them to)
- Superstar
- Win a Date With Tad Hamilton!

Over-Rated:
- Van Helsing
- Meet the Parents
- Something About Mary

mufiman
16-07-2004, 06:50 AM
van helsing was overrated? i thought it was supposedly bad with the critics and all? i hated it. anyway, ill add more to the list

over rated:
- the last samurai
-8 mile
-adam sandler movies

under rated:
-the girl next door...very funny teen comedy and it even has a bit of romance in it.
-the butterfly effect...it wasnt that bad. i think people hated it a lot because it had ashton kutcher being serious.
-man on fire...this movie had it all. this movie should have been "the punisher" and not the crap with thomas jane.
-eurotrip...i thought it was better than old school...
-spartan...disappeared from theaters too quickly.

ChocolateMoose
16-07-2004, 11:58 AM
Over rated:
The Day After Tomorrow - flits from one scene of distruction to another, no time to develop the characters and the ending was rubbish...no what happens next, it was like storms over, the end.
Titanic - Haven't seen it and refuse to as it looks pretty bad, why was there all that hype about it to start with?
Harry Potter - Really am baffled by the books and films and about how/why there is so much interest in them.
Troy (even though I thought Eric Bana was amazing in it and the battle scenes were awsome...in all honesty, it was hyped a bit much).
The Matrix (sequels) - I thought the first one was a brilliant film, but they over did it with the sequels and - for me - ruined it.
Spiderman. Haven't seen the second one yet, but I'm betting its like the first...
Master and Commander - Hornblower is so much better.

Under-rated:
Equilibrium!!!! :D It is brilliant and really gives the Matrix a run for its money. Highly recommend everyone seeing it.

ryan
16-07-2004, 12:02 PM
Amen.

Adding more to the list:

Under-Rated:
- Bend It Like Beckham (In America at least...hardly anyone I ask has seen it, and those who have only saw it because I told them to)
- Superstar
- Win a Date With Tad Hamilton!

Over-Rated:
- Van Helsing
- Meet the Parents
- Something About Mary


Van Helsing wasn't rated all that high to begin with. Kind of hard to be overrated when you aren't rated well in the first place.

ryan
16-07-2004, 12:04 PM
van helsing was overrated? i thought it was supposedly bad with the critics and all? i hated it. anyway, ill add more to the list

over rated:
- the last samurai
-8 mile
-adam sandler movies

under rated:
-the girl next door...very funny teen comedy and it even has a bit of romance in it.
-the butterfly effect...it wasnt that bad. i think people hated it a lot because it had ashton kutcher being serious.
-man on fire...this movie had it all. this movie should have been "the punisher" and not the crap with thomas jane.
-eurotrip...i thought it was better than old school...
-spartan...disappeared from theaters too quickly.

The Last Samurai was pretty good, I think.
And The Butterfly Effect (and Asston Kutcher) sucked. :p
Man on Fire wasn't all that good.
I liked The Girl Next Door, though.

hasselbrad
16-07-2004, 12:28 PM
Overrated:
Titanic
Spiderman 1 and 2
Troy
Last Samurai
Anything by Michael Moore

Underrated:
Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
Memento
Boondock Saints
There are more, I just can't think of them right now.

Got to agree with this. Michael Moore shouldn't get the luxury of his films being judged as documentaries. If the other documentary filmmakers had an ounce of dignity or intestinal fortitude, they'd boycott the Oscars until he was made to give his back.

alby
17-07-2004, 04:39 AM
Overrated: Titanic, Gangs of New York, Fahrenheit 9/11, the Piano, Memento, Matrix Reloaded & Revolutions

Underrated: Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels; Once Upon A Time in China

frodo1511
17-07-2004, 04:51 AM
Many people think that Van Helsing was overrated because it was supposed to be the beginning of the new generation-monster movie. But the critics hated it. I only enjoyed Hugh Jackman's acting(big Wolverine fan:) and the final battle between Van Helsing and Dracula. Other than that, it sucked big, considering it was boasting its "state-of-the-art-graphics"

Wake
17-07-2004, 10:02 AM
Under-Rated:

Boondock Saints

Everyone must go see this movie now. You'll only find it at blockbuster though because they bought the rights or something to it.

DragonRat
17-07-2004, 10:16 AM
I have it on DVD. The sequel sounds quite promising.

Spire
17-07-2004, 02:59 PM
Another Under-rated movie:

Big Trouble in Little China

Hazzle
18-07-2004, 03:48 AM
Arrr...good choice Spire.

Ok...I shall say this one last time...Matrix original was about as original as a cheap knock off ming vase you find for £2 at a market. The sequels were at least original in their reasoning, philosophy and plot.

Spiderman 1 was actually a very good film...just the end was rushed...and Spiderman 2 is actually the greatest comic book adaptation to date...yes...even the original Superman films...yes...even Batman...this is one of the few films to EVER get 10/10 from me...I'm a harsh critic, ask anyone...for me to like something takes a lot...for me to think it's perfect is a huge thing :)

Richard
19-07-2004, 05:54 AM
"The Graduate" is under-rated due to the fact that not many teenagers have probably seen this film. I think it's important, and one of the best films to come out of the 60's.

"Deliverance" is probably under-rated as well. Seeing this film can gave you reasons why you souldn't go on a canoeing trip in a hillbilly country. Also one of the best films to come out of the 70's.

Hazzle
20-07-2004, 10:37 PM
Over-rated:

Braveheart
Original Matrix
X-2

Under-rated:

Matchstick Men (can't believe that didn't get more hype...it's amazing)
The Ice Storm (features Elijah Wood when he was still capable of acting!)
Ghost World (After watching this I knew Ms Johansson would make it big...)

Ironic then that I watched both Ghost World and The Hole for Thora Birch, who at the time I rated highly :o) and yet I found myself amazed by her co-stars in both cases...predicting both SJ and KK would do amazingly well in their future careers.

Under-rated on THIS forum:

Spidey 2 (everyone else seems to love it but the schmucks on this forum seem to be too blind to see it.)

acliff
20-07-2004, 10:45 PM
Michael moore has no shame? I consider that part of the charm of him films. They are obviously incredibly opinionated, bordering on propoganda. However, from what he has said, he has instigated much discussion, and widening people's eyes. Even if it is tailored to the point he is trying to make.

The Black Rider
06-09-2004, 05:53 PM
Sorry for reviving this, I realize it's against the rules, but a friend told me about this thread and I find this kind of stuff irresistable.

Overrated:

Garden State
Lord of the Rings (sans The Two Towers)
Last Tango in Paris
Bowling for Columbine
Pulp Fiction
Forrest Gump
Easy Rider
Memento
Fight Club
Magnolia

Underrated:

Dead Man
La Haine
Head
Irréversible
Russian Ark
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
The Elephant Man
Barry Lyndon
Buffalo '66
The King of Comedy

Kelsey
07-09-2004, 12:16 AM
Underrated:
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Open Water

Richard
07-09-2004, 12:22 AM
Underrated:
Garden State
Napoleon Dynamite
Open Water

But Jaws is better than Open Water... right?

CFC
07-09-2004, 12:22 AM
Sorry for reviving this, I realize it's against the rules, but a friend told me about this thread and I find this kind of stuff irresistable.

Overrated:

Garden State
Lord of the Rings (sans The Two Towers)
Last Tango in Paris
Bowling for Columbine
Pulp Fiction
Forrest Gump
Easy Rider
Memento
Fight Club
Magnolia



Underrated:

Dead Man
La Haine
Head
Irréversible
Russian Ark
The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover
The Elephant Man
Barry Lyndon
Buffalo '66
The King of Comedy

Just wondering, why do you think Fight Club is over-rated?

frodo1511
07-09-2004, 12:31 AM
But Jaws is better than Open Water... right?


So much better. I see crap like Open Water every day on the Discovery Channel;)

CFC
07-09-2004, 12:32 AM
Does anybody get eaten in open water?

If no then it can't be better then jaws.

Richard
07-09-2004, 12:40 AM
So much better. I see crap like Open Water every day on the Discovery Channel;)

That's exactly what I'm going to say if anybody asks me to watch Open Water.

Does anybody get eaten in open water?

If no then it can't be better then jaws.

Jaws owns. It reigns supreme of all shark films. Anyways, about Open Water. It's not the style of which the film was made that throws me off, it's the story. If I'm not correct, they're stranded out in the middle of the ocean because their "tour boat" (it has to be somekind of tour boat, because if it was their own... how can it just disappear?) left and forgot all about them. I don't know. I'd rather prefer a fake shark anyways.

I'd like to hear what Kelsey has to say, or anybody who's seen it.

frodo1511
07-09-2004, 12:45 AM
Fine, I'll make a thread, Richard.

Dyce_Blue
07-09-2004, 02:26 AM
http://movies.yahoo.com/mvc/dls?iid=7-1058718&lid=255-28632

Jasper
07-09-2004, 02:36 AM
The Air Up There
Cool Runnings

Eww and eww.

The Black Rider
07-09-2004, 06:42 PM
Just wondering, why do you think Fight Club is over-rated?

It's overrated because it pretends to be way more intelligent than it actually is. It's entertaining, and Edward Norton is fabulous, but what's the point? It's just a bunch of people beating each other up as a result of stress. Wow, that's really deep.

I didn't hate it, nor did I hate Pulp Fiction, but people talk about both films like they're the works of Shakespeare or Chekhov. Please, give me a break.

Richard
07-09-2004, 08:02 PM
I'd have to agree. Fight Club was a great film, but it hardly deserves any major praising. Definitely not great enough to rank an 8.4 on imdb. It beat A Clockwork Orange for god sakes, and ACO is far more superior.

Recent additions:

Under-rated:
Sudden Death (so what if it's another Die-Hard knock-off).
Daylight (Stallone's last good film, with the exception of Cop Land).

CFC
07-09-2004, 08:45 PM
It's just a bunch of people beating each other up as a result of stress. Wow, that's really deep.


That is what all of my friends say about it too. I guess I just saw it differently.

The Black Rider
07-09-2004, 10:57 PM
I'd have to agree. Fight Club was a great film, but it hardly deserves any major praising. Definitely not great enough to rank an 8.4 on imdb. It beat A Clockwork Orange for god sakes, and ACO is far more superior.

Well, there are a lot of bells and whistles when it comes to the voting system on IMDb. Lots of films get extremely good votes but, for example, they're not eligible until the film gets over 1500 votes. There's also a complex math system involved.

ryan
08-09-2004, 01:31 AM
over-rated:

anything by michael moore.
the overweight gasbag doesn't deserve anywhere near the attention his mudslinging "documentaries" receive. :p

hasselbrad
08-09-2004, 01:11 PM
I don't see Garden State as being overrated. I finally got to see it, and it was fantastic, and along with Napolean Dynamite is the one of the funniest movies I've seen in forever.

Underrated...Dazed and Confused. Linklater's best work.

The Black Rider
08-09-2004, 02:57 PM
I still stand by my opinion that Garden State is one of the worst films ever made, and you can read the thread "Does anyone else hate Garden State?" to know why.

Anyway, I also think The Ladykillers remake is underrated. I saw it in theaters and loved it, and I bought it yesterday and still loved it. Not nearly as good as the original, obviously, but still hilarious.

I have another overrated film: The Passion of the Christ. I liked it, but I also agreed with it. Unless you're a Christian (or religious in any way) I don't see how anyone can find any value in it, seeing as it has no spiritual value whatsoever.

And Ryan, as much as I can't stand him, you have to agree that Michael Moore is a smart man: he came up with a strategy to cash in on the theories of New York socialists. He's also quite a clever little liar when you take the pause button out of the factor.