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Hazzle
25-09-2005, 09:51 PM
This made for interesting reading...

Porn Squad (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html?sub=AR)

Has the Christian Right in the US gone completely nuts? There seems to be a really strong Christian agenda in US politics at the moment and it's worrying. The Pro-Life argument has gained increasing strength despite moving towards more and more religiously-based arguments, the seperation of Church and State is being challenged at every corner and things like this and the Silver Ring Thing are not particularly encouraging to hear.

Foeni
25-09-2005, 09:54 PM
I read about that in a Danish newspaper this morning. What the fuck is wrong with them? It'll just make the porn industry make even more money. Once it becomes 'forbidden' it gets much more interesting = more money for the porn industry.

Hazzle
25-09-2005, 09:58 PM
Banning has never been a particularly successful way of stopping vices. Prohibition in the US proved that. Look at the War on Drugs, that worked, didn't it?

deviljet88
26-09-2005, 12:02 AM
They just want an excuse to look at porn. Perverts.

Donkeypunchgrandma
26-09-2005, 12:21 AM
Let them fight a war they can't win.

More fun for those of us who aren't American. :)

Hazzle
26-09-2005, 05:53 AM
They just want an excuse to look at porn. Perverts.

Well one guy said that most agents will have to recuse themselves!

DefyingGravity
26-09-2005, 08:55 AM
The internet is for porn.
"What?!"
The internet is for porn.
"Nooo!"
Why you think the net was born? Porn, porn porn.

Hazzle
26-09-2005, 10:26 AM
Can anyone imagine the internet without porn? The porn industry basically funds the internet industry, without it where would the money come from?

Ranman
26-09-2005, 11:05 AM
You know whats funny
If Jesus were to show up here in the USA
The Christian Right would probably call him
A Anti-American Pussy

Hazzle
26-09-2005, 11:07 AM
Wouldn't surprise me Ran. They're an odd bunch. And a bunch of hypocritical liars.

Digital_Ice
26-09-2005, 12:59 PM
The internet is for porn.
"What?!"
The internet is for porn.
"Nooo!"
Why you think the net was born? Porn, porn porn.

woooh!!!!! avenue q!!!

hasselbrad
26-09-2005, 03:29 PM
This made for interesting reading...

Porn Squad (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/19/AR2005091901570.html?sub=AR)

Has the Christian Right in the US gone completely nuts? There seems to be a really strong Christian agenda in US politics at the moment and it's worrying. The Pro-Life argument has gained increasing strength despite moving towards more and more religiously-based arguments, the seperation of Church and State is being challenged at every corner and things like this and the Silver Ring Thing are not particularly encouraging to hear.

Gone completely nuts? That happened a long, long time ago.

DefyingGravity
26-09-2005, 07:58 PM
woooh!!!!! avenue q!!!

Ahaha, I was hoping somebody would get that.

Hazzle
26-09-2005, 08:00 PM
I got it. Although only because you tell me about that play ALL the time.

Apparently it's quite good.

Now back to PORN people!

hasselbrad
29-09-2005, 02:12 PM
Link to funny (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1675832)

Hazzle
29-09-2005, 06:57 PM
Link to funny (http://forums.fark.com/cgi/fark/comments.pl?IDLink=1675832)

Haha, that shit's funny.

Does this count as porn?

Stroking a kitten (http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/3624/2322706uum5qm.gif)

Or this?

Aww, puppy (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haha9rk.jpg)

hasselbrad
29-09-2005, 07:28 PM
Haha, that shit's funny.

Does this count as porn?

Stroking a kitten (http://img308.imageshack.us/img308/3624/2322706uum5qm.gif)

Or this?

Aww, puppy (http://img51.imageshack.us/my.php?image=haha9rk.jpg)

Sonofabitch...I damn near had to bite the tip of my tongue off to keep from laughing at the puppy.

Hazzle
29-09-2005, 07:32 PM
I love that one! Why couldn't you just laugh?

hasselbrad
29-09-2005, 08:16 PM
I love that one! Why couldn't you just laugh?

At work. Makes it pretty obvious I'm not...working.

Hazzle
29-09-2005, 10:14 PM
At work. Makes it pretty obvious I'm not...working.

Oh I SEE. For shame!

I'm not actually allowed to come to KKW at work. I did for a few days but then the IT boffin at work (who will be shot) pulled up a report for the MD showing how many of us were surfing when we should've been working and we've been told to stay off except at lunch and before work. I presume if anyone were to make their monthly target early they could theoretically get away with it too, since any excess they make earns them more commission but the company can hardly complain if you make your pre-set target. They would be likely, however, to put you on a higher target if it continued for too many months in a row!

Anyway, the long and short of it is I'm only here when at home or on Lunch. It's either that or they'll put surf controlling software on the computers and we'll be fucked.

breathein
30-09-2005, 04:45 AM
Because sex is an abnormal thing that is wrong and dirty and gross and icky
/sarcasm

psssshhhhht. as if. first let's start on all the homelessness, starving children, and people still getting treated like third-rate citizens. because god forbid our children know what sex is.
/rant

sorry, I find all of this ridiculous :mad:

Hazzle
30-09-2005, 05:50 AM
You're not the only one. That's why I posted it. Doesn't the government have better things to spend money on?

FFS. Do they think kids wouldn't know about sex anyway? Freud reckons babies know about sex at the age of 3, and this is supported by many transexuals tracing back their "realisation" that they were in the "wrong" body to that exact age. And heaven forbid that they do...because after all...we can procreate without sex, right? :icon_err:

DragonRat
04-10-2005, 08:29 AM
It's pretty much an offshoot of American history: though in our humble beginnings we strove for religious toleration, those early settlers were by no means tolerant of other religions (we're talking Puritanism here; I mean, one could make the point that these Puritans were more kicked out than self-imposed emigration).

So what was included in Puritanism? An incredibly conservative approach to the household (read those biblical passages about a wife's subservicence to the husband, and you'll realize how the hermeneutics of literal biblical tradition connects indirectly with the neo-conservative literalist Constitutional interpretations of modern Supreme Court Justices (calling Antonin Scalia). Along with that comes a heavy Judeo-Christian outlook on government and governmental laws - why else would we have such a debate on abortion, on prayer in schools, on homosexual marriages? Because these things are simply a part of being American, sorry to say. It's been built into our very sociopolitical system since the beginning (even before our government was even ratified).

As for the US's supposed Moral Majority and neo-conservative right-wing poopheads that still strive for Christian correctness, allow me to point their direction toward the Supreme Court decision of Miller v. California, which explains that, in accordance with judicial review and the elastic clause, such obscenities or objects of prurient interest as pornography are under the jurisdiction of the state, not the federal government: http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=us&vol=413&invol=15
Of course, this is the very reason why people are interested in our President's Supreme Court nominations. The next Justices could mean the salvation of civil rights in the face of neo-conservatism, or the end of all we believe to be our God-given rights - life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

As for my own opinion, the idea of a Porn Squad is as ridiculous as Congressional hearings on baseball and steroids. Really, Sen. McCain, what were you thinking? Can't you see that New Orleans is under water, or that we had a surplus under Clinton, but now trillions of dollars in debt? Or that we spend nearly half our federal budget on defense alone? No, we need to talk about whether Mark McGwire was being a 5th-Amendment-pleading pussy, and that Rafael Palmeiro's reputation is forever stained. I mean, honestly, he's a war hero, and baseball's as important to him as every other pastime fan, but I don't really see the House of Commons up in arms about Jose Mourinho and the Russian revolution of Chelsea. ("They have way too much money, gents. Let's bypass the FA and put an end to it.")

And that's my rant of the day.

Hazzle
04-10-2005, 06:39 PM
I don't really see the House of Commons up in arms about Jose Mourinho and the Russian revolution of Chelsea. ("They have way too much money, gents. Let's bypass the FA and put an end to it.")

They bloody should be! Competitive league football in this country in the top division is dead so long as Chelsea can continue to spend 50 million to strengthen a team that already won the title last season by 11 points.

DragonRat
04-10-2005, 09:57 PM
Then get the FA to set a salary cap. It's the only option to stop Chelsea; if you must stop one team, then you must stop all. Unfortunately, that might change the whole appeal of the Premiership, and eventually Spanish and Italian teams might move off better English players through higher contracts... unless you also set up a salary cap in every other league in UEFA. Indeed, a salary cap issue would then be an international topic, not just a domestic one.

The difference with Congress and baseball is that it is a domestic issue only. Indeed, Congress has the right to call up whomever they wish for any matter they see fit, as long as their constituents are interested in the issues (such as steroids and baseball).

Hazzle
05-10-2005, 05:52 AM
I think Fifa should set up a salary cap as a % of your profit for a year. That way not only would Chelsea not be able to keep some top class players (like SWP, for example) on their bench (to avoid rivals having them) by paying them loads, they wouldn't be able to continue to be run as they are, as a loss-making outfit.

I'd actually like a cap of £30m spending budget in one season too, perhaps linked to profit as well.