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Kyle_West
08-07-2004, 08:09 PM
I wanted another King Arthur thread. What do you think opening week? Maybe weekend. When I went the theatre was packed. I was very suprised. Many think this will be a major box office flop and may not reach the 100 million dollar mark. They say 3rd opening weekend. I say it gives spiderman a good run at #1, but will come up short. close behind will be Anchorman. Hard to tell but what the hell?

1.Spiderman 2-40 Million
2.King Arthur-30 Million
3.Anchorman-25 Million

Everything else doesn't matter. Do you think any chance to top Spiderman? Apparently I don't.

Louie
08-07-2004, 08:36 PM
I think KA will do well at the office, but it won't be able to compete with Spiderman (not many movies can). Anchorman won't even come close to Spiderman or KA.

mufiman
09-07-2004, 02:02 AM
Spider-man will be #1 no doubt. but i dont think KA will beat Anchorman. i think more people are interested in seeing Anchorman because its one of the few comedies coming out this summer. plus, KA opened on a Wednesday, which would make the Fri-Sun less than it would have been had it opened on Friday. but you never know.

1) Spider-man 2/45Mil
2) Anchorman/35
3)KA/25

found the box office numbers for Wednesday. it didnt do too well, but it was a wednesday, so hopefully the numbers will go up on the weekend.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2004-07-07&p=.htm

Spire
09-07-2004, 03:13 AM
I don't expect King Arthur to fare particularly well, but you never know. Anchorman is actually highly anticipated, already being billed as on the funniest movies ever. I've heard it compared to Airplane, The Holy Grail, Annie Hall, and Caddyshack.

ryan
09-07-2004, 10:31 AM
King Arthur will bring in a *lot* more than 25 mil for a Wednesday through Sunday opening week.

KnightleyNews
09-07-2004, 12:17 PM
First day takings were $4.8m:
http://money.cnn.com/2004/07/09/news/newsmakers/king_arthur.reut/
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=daily&id=kingarthur.htm

Paul

Hazzle
10-07-2004, 12:06 AM
Which suggests at best that the 25 mill estimate will more or less be matched, or more likely that it'll take in a fair bit less...so err...GG Mufiman :D

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 05:39 AM
I really think King Arthur will make it to #1 this week on account of a few reasons: Spider-Man 2 has been out for 2 weeks, so many people have already seen it. 2, it is a Jerry Bruckheimer(s/p?) film, so go figure. 3, Many little school boys below 15 will drag their moms to go see it for Keira. I'm predicting a good 25-50 mill. for opening weekend. To some that may seem a little high, but I've seen weirder happenings( Van Helsing, or The Day After Tommorow, anyone?) Also, Anchorman stands no chance, except for starring one of the funniest comedians alife or living. Feel free to argue/ agree to your fullest ability.

mufiman
11-07-2004, 06:15 AM
I really think King Arthur will make it to #1 this week on account of a few reasons: Spider-Man 2 has been out for 2 weeks, so many people have already seen it. 2, it is a Jerry Bruckheimer(s/p?) film, so go figure. 3, Many little school boys below 15 will drag their moms to go see it for Keira. I'm predicting a good 25-50 mill. for opening weekend. To some that may seem a little high, but I've seen weirder happenings( Van Helsing, or The Day After Tommorow, anyone?) Also, Anchorman stands no chance, except for starring one of the funniest comedians alife or living. Feel free to argue/ agree to your fullest ability.

no, it really isnt going to be number 1. no way. it will be number 3, definately, just look at the friday estimates.
http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2004-07-09&p=.htm
anchorman doubled KA's opening and spiderman 2 nearly tripled it. theres no way it can pass both of them. 50 million is impossible. 25 mil tops. anchorman doesnt stand a chance because one of the funniest comedians is starring? isnt that a bit contradictory?

Renegade
11-07-2004, 06:22 AM
no, it really isnt going to be number 1. no way. it will be number 3, definately, just look at the friday estimates.
http://boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2004-07-09&p=.htm
anchorman doubled KA's opening and spiderman 2 nearly tripled it. theres no way it can pass both of them. 50 million is impossible. 25 mil tops. anchorman doesnt stand a chance because one of the funnies comedians is starring? isnt that a bit contradictory?

I agree. Spiderman and Anchorman just seem have more appeal than King Arthur. Trailers for Anchorman have definitely proved it to be a contender for the top comedy for the summer. And for Spiderman...well, everyone loves him.
I predict a solid 30 million the first weekend.

Kyle_West
11-07-2004, 07:42 AM
I predict a solid 30 million the first weekend.
For Anchorman. King Arthur making 5 million on a Friday!?!?! 5 day earning wont make 30 million. King Arthur will make less than it took to make it.

mufiman
11-07-2004, 07:44 AM
The movie will have lost money, i think someone somewhere said it took about 80 million to make. It may not reach that. Its the next Waterworld. Ha!

actually, Bruckheimer [sp?] said it was 110-120 million. but thats not so bad, because the adventures of pluto nash took over 100 million to make and grossed somewhere near 5 million domesticly. thats the record i think. KA will probably make a profit because its going to open all over the world. they just wont make back their budget in the US. it could happen. it took 200 million to make troy, and it only made about 130 in the U.S. but its total gross is over 400 million.

Kyle_West
11-07-2004, 07:50 AM
Troy had Brad Pitt, Orlando Bloom, Eric Bana.


Those names alone made 250,000 american teenage girls cream in there pants. Thats a big way they made money. Imagine if it was pg-13. the madness.

Clive Owen, Ioan Mcgruffed (However you spell it), Ray Winstone
Noone sees it for the "hotness" judging by the fact they haven't the slightest clue of who they are.

I guess it could earn it back, in europe it will be bigger I suppose. But in the US the film will be a flop.

O yeah, King Arthur is alot better than Troy.

Hazzle
11-07-2004, 05:41 PM
I guess it could earn it back, in europe it will be bigger I suppose. But in the US the film will be a flop.


It'll make tons in the UK box office I suspect, given that the cast is largely (entirely?) British...Keira alone should help it do well here.

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 06:11 PM
I'm still going for a good 25-50 mill. for opening weekend. Anchorman looks like just another lackluster comedy with no social values. It wont even be able to touch Dodgeball, or Spider Man/ King Arthur. Also, how many times has a new movie beaten out a week old one for the top spot, hmmm? The only reason Spider Man did so great it's opening weekend is because it came out during the 4th of July, so of course many people saw it( I did twice). but we will only know who won tommorow. Next, King Arthur had a so so opening day because it came out on a wednsday, where everyone had work, so of course A friday premiere(Anchorman) would be able to double KA's.

KnightleyNews
11-07-2004, 06:30 PM
Fri - Sun estimates are in:
1. Spider-Man 2: $46m
2. Anchorman: $28m
3. King Arthur: $15.2m

with KA totalling $23.6m since Wednesday.

From Variety:
Spidey clings to top

'Anchorman' is second with $28 mil

By Gabriel Snyder

As expected, "Spider-Man 2" stayed on top of the box office chart in its second weekend. Playing at 4,166 locations, the comicbook adaptation picked up another $46 million over the weekend, according to Sony's estimates.
That brings its cumulative gross to an amazing $257.3 million, making "Spider-Man 2" the fastest film ever, in 12 days, to cross $250 million. Past record holder was "Shrek 2," which took 13 days to reach the mark. "Spider-Man 2" is also running well ahead of the original "Spider-Man," which had made $233 million through its first 12 days of release in 2002. "Spider-Man's" final domestic tally was $403.7 million and "Shrek 2" has accumulated $418.6 million during its U.S. run so far, after adding $4.5 million this weekend. But Sony distrib prexy Rory Bruer wasn't ready to make any predictions on whether "Spider-Man 2" would surpass those pics.
"I'm afraid to jinx it," he said. "I feel like I need to knock on wood, spin around three times and throw salt over my shoulder." Debuting with a strong second-place showing, DreamWorks' "Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy" scored $28 million in its first three days. The Will Ferrell laffer played 3,091 engagements. "It's a very good opening in this crowded marketplace," said DreamWorks distrib topper Jim Tharp. Meanwhile, Walt Disney's "King Arthur" placed a distant third for the weekend. Booked at 3,086 theaters, the medieval epic grossed $15.5 million during the three-day frame. Since opening Wednesday, the knight's tale has a cumulative gross of $23.6 million. Disney distrib chief Chuck Viane called Arthur's opening "a very solid double," adding, "We don't play for the weekends. We play for longevity."
Also opening this weekend was MGM's "Sleepover," which bowed with $4.2 million from 2,207 locations, just good enough for the No. 10 spot on the weekend chart. In its third weekend, "Fahrenheit 9/11" made $11 million, the fourth biggest gross of the weekend, a 32% drop from its three-day perf over last week's holiday weekend. Michael Moore's documentary expanded to 2,011 locations for the frame, 286 more theaters than last weekend. Gross now stands at $80.1 million.

Paul

Kelsey
11-07-2004, 08:40 PM
I'm god-awful at numbers, but I don't think King Arthur will meet it's box office expectations. For example, I work at the movie theater, and this weekend (Friday & Saturday, our two busiest days by far) Spiderman was sold out on two of the three screens we have it on, Anchorman was near full, and King Arthur filled up a little more than half of the theater.

mufiman
11-07-2004, 09:45 PM
I'm god-awful at numbers, but I don't think King Arthur will meet it's box office expectations. For example, I work at the movie theater, and this weekend (Friday & Saturday, our two busiest days by far) Spiderman was sold out on two of the three screens we have it on, Anchorman was near full, and King Arthur filled up a little more than half of the theater.

i agree, i highly doubt it will win back its budget, not with the low appeal, bad reviews and poor box office. plus, this is the summer, which means there is going to be 1 or 2 big movies coming out per week. doesnt look good either way, but you never know.

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 10:35 PM
When I saw it on wednsday, there was only 10 people in the theater. I thought that it was only empty because it opened in the middle of the week, right after the big 4th of July weekend. hopefully, it will have picked up during the weekend.

KnightleyNews
18-07-2004, 08:14 PM
It's down to No.6 this week.

Variety says:
Things did not improve for Walt Disney's "King Arthur" after its disappointing opening. It reported $6.9 million at 3,086 bookings for the frame, down 54% from its bow, with a cume of $37.9 million.

Paul

frodo1511
18-07-2004, 11:04 PM
Well shit, thats a pisser.
Oh well, look on the bright side: Everyone who likes this movie won't have to wait that long for the DVD release :D

ChocolateMoose
19-07-2004, 01:12 AM
Ioan Mcgruffed (However you spell it)

Ioan Gruffudd.

When is the DVD coming out then?

frodo1511
19-07-2004, 02:04 AM
I was guessing around november/december, but with the "success" it's been getting at the BO, i'm not so sure. Maby late october/early november? Just not on Nov. 9th please God, I already am forking over $50 for Halo 2 :D
Please...

Edward
19-07-2004, 09:55 AM
don't worry, i'm paying £6 towards it remember!!!!

jadie
19-07-2004, 08:08 PM
dont care what they think I'm going to check this out for myself.

frodo1511
19-07-2004, 11:45 PM
It's a really good flick, jadie. Only letdown is if you think it's going to be a gladiator/ braveheart-pseado movie (Hint: It's not quite up to par:)

Hazzle
20-07-2004, 10:31 PM
Except Braveheart was shit. So if you're suggesting KA isn't as good as that should I be worried? I mean even Gladiator was not that good...

It's disappointing to see it do so badly...maybe they should've kept it back til Christmas after all?

apoggy
20-07-2004, 10:38 PM
Stay on topic people, and no 'im sorry chief' posts either :p

frodo1511
21-07-2004, 02:29 AM
Except Braveheart was shit. So if you're suggesting KA isn't as good as that should I be worried? I mean even Gladiator was not that good...

It's disappointing to see it do so badly...maybe they should've kept it back til Christmas after all?


I'll ignore your rant on Gladiator/Braveheart :mad:
But does anyone think it would have even compared to ROTK last Xmas?

Hazzle
21-07-2004, 02:38 AM
I'll ignore your rant on Gladiator/Braveheart :mad:
But does anyone think it would have even compared to ROTK last Xmas?

Errr...I didn't really rant about Gladiator, which was ok, QUITE good...Braveheart was SHIT.

And it would've been THIS Christmas...Christmas 2004, not last Christmas...why does everyone get that wrong? It hadn't even finished filming last Christmas.

Renegade
21-07-2004, 02:42 AM
I'll ignore your rant on Gladiator/Braveheart :mad:
But does anyone think it would have even compared to ROTK last Xmas?

If I'm not mistaken, I think Haz was refering to this upcoming Christmas.

But to answer your question, it would've had a better chance against ROTK than Spiderman 2. Spiderman has more appeal to the little ones, teenagers, and adults alike because they grew up with him with the popular comics and cartoon. I can bet no one ever heard of Frodo and the Ring before the movie came out.

KnightleyNews
25-07-2004, 06:40 PM
Well it's still in the Top 10 this weekend in the States. It's at No.9 after taking another $3.1m.

Paul

Dyce_Blue
25-07-2004, 10:26 PM
I just saw Bourne II, and it was really good. The theater was packed. On a Sunday afternoon! I, Robot will drop to #2, with Spidey close behind. Hopefully KA will have enough to knock Sleepover off the top 10 (fingers crossed).

Spire
25-07-2004, 11:07 PM
I can bet no one ever heard of Frodo and the Ring before the movie came out.

You'd be wrong there mate. The Lord of the Rings trilogy was the Second Most Read Book of the 20th Century (behind the Bible, of course) and on of the best selling books of all time. More people have read LotR worldwide than have read Spiderman. And that's a fact.

frodo1511
25-07-2004, 11:41 PM
I just saw Bourne II, and it was really good. The theater was packed. On a Sunday afternoon! I, Robot will drop to #2, with Spidey close behind. Hopefully KA will have enough to knock Sleepover off the top 10 (fingers crossed).


Yeah, I did see the Bourne Supremacy, and it was freaking awesome, one of Matt Damon's finest works, and some of the best car chase scenes in recent memory(better than the Matrix:Reloaded by a long shot). Oh, my appologies for mixing up the Christmas' in my last few posts. Still one of the better movies of the summer KA is, only now it will have to deal w/ S2, I,Robot, Supremacy, and Next week, the Village. Dosen't look good for the Round Table... :icon_redf

Dyce_Blue
25-07-2004, 11:44 PM
The Bourne series, I, Robot, Spiderman, and LoTR are all based on some sort of literature. These are the most successful movies in recent history. This may just be a coincidence.

Kelsey
26-07-2004, 12:34 AM
The Bourne Supremacy was fantastic. I love Matt Damon.

As for K.A., it is officially a bomb in my town. My movie theater is losing it on Friday. An embarrassingly short run. Too bad.

Dyce_Blue
26-07-2004, 12:48 AM
What city do you live in? How many screens does your theater have? At the theater I go to with 24 screens, it is in 1 full time and another 1/2 time. At the theater with 30 screens that I go to, KA is in 2 screens. I don't think it will last much longer now, with the 3 screen release of Bourne II and the 2 that Spidey and other movies take up.

frodo1511
26-07-2004, 12:59 AM
The Bourne series, I, Robot, Spiderman, and LoTR are all based on some sort of literature. These are the most successful movies in recent history. This may just be a coincidence.


Coincidence, or maby because the directors/producers/actors/whoever involved is extremely talented, and spark the interest of millions of fans worldwide. Also, millions of people have read the books first, and were excited to see them evolve into the big screen.

KnightleyNews
01-08-2004, 09:19 PM
Estimates are in for this weekend in the US and finds KA down to No.16:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2004&wknd=31&p=.htm

UK figures are out on Tuesday night. Think it'll be No.1 ? It would be nice, in Arthur's homeland, after all ! (although I did enjoy Garfield, also out last Friday, but perhaps that was because of JLH's presence) :)

Paul

KnightleyNews
03-08-2004, 01:26 PM
Estimates are in for this weekend in the US and finds KA down to No.16:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2004&wknd=31&p=.htm

UK figures are out on Tuesday night. Think it'll be No.1 ? It would be nice, in Arthur's homeland, after all ! (although I did enjoy Garfield, also out last Friday, but perhaps that was because of JLH's presence) :)

Paul


To answer my own question, King Arthur HAS debuted at No.1 in the UK, taking £1.9m and knocking Spider-Man 2 off the top.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/film/3531008.stm

Paul

Sarah
03-08-2004, 03:41 PM
Congratulations are in order for King Arthur.

frodo1511
03-08-2004, 05:17 PM
Question: How much is 1.9 million in american currency? I heard that KA beat out spidey (yah) but I'm a little rusty on my exchange lately. thanks.

Sarah
03-08-2004, 05:46 PM
About 3. something million dollars

apoggy
03-08-2004, 05:55 PM
£1,900,000.00 is equal to $3,469,786.01

Sarah
03-08-2004, 06:44 PM
£1,900,000.00 is equal to $3,469,786.01

At least I got the 3! I was going to use http://www.dollars2pounds.com, but then I couldn't work out how many 000000's I needed. Thick when it comes to maths, so thank you.

frodo1511
03-08-2004, 07:29 PM
Thank apoggy and sarah. I was too lazy to figure it out by myself(two weeks left before school starts again) But, after seeing the opening amount for KA, a question occurs- Is that fairly good for opening weekend in England? I'm just curious, since you see all these 50 million+ openings for spiderman, I,robot,and more, but openings that are relatively small overseas.

Sarah
03-08-2004, 08:06 PM
Thank apoggy and sarah. I was too lazy to figure it out by myself(two weeks left before school starts again) But, after seeing the opening amount for KA, a question occurs- Is that fairly good for opening weekend in England? I'm just curious, since you see all these 50 million+ openings for spiderman, I,robot,and more, but openings that are relatively small overseas.

Well all you have to do is consider the size of England compared with America. I think it is a good opening number, but I've never really studied box office actions so i'm not sure. Well, its at number 1, so thats pretty damn good.

KnightleyNews
03-08-2004, 08:49 PM
That £1.9m is across 400 screens in the UK (ie. £5k/$9k per screen). It's still poor compared with Pirates' UK debut which was £6.1m across 462 screens (£13k/$24k per screen).

Spidey was in its third (?) week in the UK, so it didn't take much knocking off, and Garfield was the only other major newbie this week.

KA also debuted at No.1 in Denmark, Netherlands, Thailand and Belgium. Total non-US box office to date is $31.9m with quite a few countries to come.

Paul

frodo1511
03-08-2004, 08:57 PM
I'm really excited to see the movie do so well across the world. Personally, I thought that with such a poor running in the states, I didn't think that KA would have done all that great anywhere else. But, with an excellent ensemble cast, good director/producer, and the fact that American in general are not good choosers, i'm glad it beat out spiderman.

Hazzle
04-08-2004, 12:19 AM
Knew it'd do ok...but it still wasn't going to make major money...that's why it couldn't stand up to Spiderman...

alby
04-08-2004, 03:39 AM
Worldwide gross is $80.7 million and the overseas portion is $31.9 million as of Monday.

Just wanted to say that Bourne Supremacy is doing excellent. Great movie.

Samurai Deli
04-08-2004, 04:38 AM
They were very stupid for releasing it juts one week after Spider-Man 2.

mufiman
04-08-2004, 05:58 AM
They were very stupid for releasing it juts one week after Spider-Man 2.

well not that stupid. they could have released it on the same week. it was probably good positioning, because they were only up against anchorman, and a one week old spiderman. if they released it later, they would have had competition from $50million giants i, robot, the bourne supremacy, and the village. spiderman only grossed 45mil. slightly less, but it still would have been worse to release it later. and it had already been slated for the july 7th release for months. changing it could possibly confuse moviegoers of the actual release date. there was pretty much nothing they could do for the release date. its the summer, and every week has strong competition. it just didnt appeal very strongly with the US, with keira being the only recognizable face in the cast. it could have been better if they released it in the fall, possibly winter. but this was disneys big summer movie, so they had to put it there.

Hazzle
04-08-2004, 11:03 AM
Actually it was original scheduled for Christmas 2004...and Fuqua was NOT pleased at having to rush his work...perhaps this showed in the film (that it was rushed) and the Christmas release date might've suited better, especially as the scenery in the film looks rather wintery.

frodo1511
04-08-2004, 02:24 PM
Actually it was original scheduled for Christmas 2004...and Fuqua was NOT pleased at having to rush his work...perhaps this showed in the film (that it was rushed) and the Christmas release date might've suited better, especially as the scenery in the film looks rather wintery.


The Bourne Supremacy was also filmed during winter. I thought that was preety "cool" since it made summer less warm, at least for a day(both movies, I mean)

alby
08-08-2004, 08:56 AM
They were very stupid for releasing it juts one week after Spider-Man 2.

There have been a lot of successful films this summer. It's difficult to imagine what else could have been done, given the competition. Spiderman broke records, I Robot and Bourne Supremacy went on a nice run, etc.

Hazzle
08-08-2004, 03:44 PM
There have been a lot of successful films this summer. It's difficult to imagine what else could have been done, given the competition. Spiderman broke records, I Robot and Bourne Supremacy went on a nice run, etc.

I repeat...scheduled for a Christmas release...looks to me much more like a christmas action film than a summer one as it seems a little more dramatic and dark.

Kelsey
08-08-2004, 07:03 PM
They should have waited. I think the release date hurt the American box office numbers most.

Hazzle
08-08-2004, 08:08 PM
They should have waited. I think the release date hurt the American box office numbers most.

Yah...truth. Clearly shown by how KA was numero uno in the UK Box Office...same film...can't put it ALL down to the fact we know more of the cast...I think it pretty much goes down to the release date (although I could see how casting another well known star alongside Keira would've been good too).

frodo1511
09-08-2004, 03:14 AM
With the release of "Collateral" in the states, it most likely won't help KA too terribly much this weekend.
BTW, just got home from seeing the movie, and it was AWESOME! Tom Cruise played a very convincing assasin, worthy of best actor material.

keira_lover
09-08-2004, 05:45 AM
Was it better than The Last Samurai because I'd have to say that's my favorite Tom Cruise movie to date. Some of the finest acting I've seen in years outside of Keira's of course.

frodo1511
09-08-2004, 06:01 AM
Was it better than The Last Samurai because I'd have to say that's my favorite Tom Cruise movie to date. Some of the finest acting I've seen in years outside of Keira's of course.


Much. I couldn't even begin to think Tom had the whole bad-guy side to him before seeing the movie. Definiatlely my #2 fav. movie of the summer, in front of I, Robot, but behind of King Arthur:)

Hazzle
09-08-2004, 10:40 PM
Ok...enough about Tom Cruise...back on topic...to be honest I think we've all discussed this shit to death, but if you guys can keep it fresh, interesting and original, fair enough.