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Hazzle
30-06-2004, 10:11 PM
who thinks this'll be a good movie? People seem to be dissing it left right and centre but I actually think it looks good...certainly seems like it'll be better than POTC (which was largely a poor script carried by a superb lead performance from Mr Depp)...

Just wondered why people don't think it'll be good, or if you DO think it'll be good...what you'd say to sell it (from what you know about it) to the naysayers...much more interesting than a straight poll :)

KnightleyNews
30-06-2004, 11:55 PM
I think it's a case of 'first impressions last' for a lot of people, and the first impressions were from the trailer. The voiceover was cheesy and the clips weren't exactly riveting. I think Clive Owen's monotone voice put quite a few people off too. Compare it with Ray Winstone's acting in the new clip released today:
http://filmforce.ign.com/kingarthur/articles/526/526396p1.html

Plus, many people have their own staunch theories on the King Arthur legend, and most of them don't match with this movie's, hence the storyline being torn to shreds. I've lost count of the number of 'Roman Arthur - WHAT ?' and 'Warrior Guinevere - WHAT THE HELL ?' threads on other forums. People have their theories and nothing else could POSSIBLY be correct.

But no-one has seen the movie as a whole yet, so no-one is in a position to judge. I think Spider-Man 2 will do it some serious damage at the US box office, though.

Paul

Vertical Vortex
30-06-2004, 11:57 PM
who thinks this'll be a good movie? People seem to be dissing it left right and centre but I actually think it looks good...certainly seems like it'll be better than POTC (which was largely a poor script carried by a superb lead performance from Mr Depp)...

Just wondered why people don't think it'll be good, or if you DO think it'll be good...what you'd say to sell it (from what you know about it) to the naysayers...much more interesting than a straight poll :)

nah, i dont think it will be even close to be better than POTC... buts thats maybe because i am a POTC fan. KA looks nice to me... but i dont think this is more than just a actionmovie... I liked 'First Knight' with Sean Connery and Richard Gere... but that movie was alot more romantic i guess, and i think that fits the story better... but ofcourse i cant really judge the movie if i havent seen it...

But i sure am positive about it

Louie
01-07-2004, 02:38 AM
The trailer just made the movie look like it's going to be a lot of mindless action. Mindless action gets boring after awhile. The storyline doesn't sound very good either, Roman King Arthur??? But...we'll have to wait and see whether it actually is a good movie or not.

Narg
01-07-2004, 03:57 AM
I really hope its good, some parts from the trailers look great, and i for one, know that all the scenes with the loveley Miss Knightley in it are going to be awesome! :)

deviljet88
01-07-2004, 06:51 AM
I'm just glad there's a new movie on King Arthur, always been interested in it from year 3, did two projects and one speech on the topic at school. Just a bonus Keira is in it :)

danny cool
01-07-2004, 09:24 AM
Personally i cannot wait till king arthur is released in the uk. iv been looking forward to it for about 7 months, still got a month to go ,damn
im sure it will be a great movie, and at the end of the day a great movie is a great movie

Edward
01-07-2004, 10:46 AM
i'm sure it would be good, and not just all action like the black hawk down movie jerry bruckheimer did

DragonRat
01-07-2004, 12:05 PM
I think it offers a keen twist on the Arthurian legends, much of which was correlated with local Celtic and European Christian mythos. Many people see Arthur from the novel 'The Once And Future King' and from reading mythology books. However, that does not mean it is true. At any rate, if this one isn't true, then at least it provides an honest approach to the legends themselves.

Kyle_West
01-07-2004, 12:38 PM
I actually thought that the trailor was good. I personally thought that Clive Owen may not have been a gold mine to get since I can do the arthur voice better than him. But still, maybe he brings something they don't show in the 2 minute trailor. I think this move will be very good and I have been looking foward to it since I heard about it months back. 6 days now here in the US and I am stoked to see it. In my opinion, it has to be better than spiderman 2.

Kelsey
01-07-2004, 01:21 PM
I read the novelization and I think the storyline is weak. Plus, it's done by Jerry Bruckheimer, who I like, but he does movies to fill the seats and caters to what will get people to come rather than making sure he has a good film. I don't like the fact that the entire storyline seems to depend on the war scenes (I'm a character person I guess), and there are a few other things I didn't like but I'll keep those quiet for now because they're spoilers. I do, however, like the fact that Guinevere kicks ass in this storyline, but that could be because I am a girl.

I guess I'm just torn between wanting this to be a great movie, the reality that most huge blockbusters like this are...crap, and so many other things about it. I don't necessarily think it'll be good, but I don't necessarily think it'll be bad either. Only seeing the movie will determine that, which I'll definitely be doing either way.

acliff
01-07-2004, 07:59 PM
thought that Clive Owen may not have been a gold mine to get since I can do the arthur voice better than him. But still, maybe he brings something they don't show in the 2 minute trailor.

Clive Owen is a fantastic actor, and him being in it is one of the reasons why I'll go watch it. Now, you can do the Arthur voice better than him?
Clive Owen? A native British person? You american? please, you kid. Besides, how do you know what Arthur should sound like?

Sarah
01-07-2004, 08:03 PM
My first impression of the film, through trailers alone, is that it looks horribly boring.

It looks just like tonnes of other historical war films. It looks dull and I don't know if I can actually be bothered to get off my arse and watch it.

Perhaps I'm wrong and it'll be brilliant, intense and captivating. I'll have to wait and see...

Hazzle
02-07-2004, 12:14 AM
Clive Owen is a fantastic actor, and him being in it is one of the reasons why I'll go watch it. Now, you can do the Arthur voice better than him?
Clive Owen? A native British person? You american? please, you kid. Besides, how do you know what Arthur should sound like?

Clive Owen is the dog's bollocks and like you, I'm really interested in seeing how he does in it and I doubt I'll be disappointed...he's also one of the reasons why I'm watching it :)

My first impression of the film, through trailers alone, is that it looks horribly boring.

It looks just like tonnes of other historical war films. It looks dull and I don't know if I can actually be bothered to get off my arse and watch it.

Perhaps I'm wrong and it'll be brilliant, intense and captivating. I'll have to wait and see...

Ack...I actually like war films and historical films...but it's all horses for courses...I actually like your reasons for not wanting to see it the best :)

Kyle_West
02-07-2004, 03:28 AM
Funny, Well lets see. You can't always judge me because you have no idea what I sound like. I do traditional brittish accents in theatre and in monologues. I have a very smooth deep voice. Now it's not like a lash out at clive owen. I have been reading how potc was saved by depp so I was comparing owen with this. He is not a savior when it comes to acting. I may be wrong and this movie may prove to be an incredible role for him. Nonetheless, I work hard on my accent. It may come natural to some people, but I have to work at it. It's not bad, so don't judge it. Also, because you're older that automatically means everything I say is dog shit and I'm some sort of neanderthal? Whats gives?

Hazzle
02-07-2004, 03:55 AM
Also, because you're older that automatically means everything I say is dog shit and I'm some sort of neanderthal? Whats gives?

Errr...he said..."Please, you kid"...as in "Please, you jest" or "You must be joking"...not in the sense of being patronising...read it in context again and you'll see what was meant :)

Oh...and his point stands...how do you know what King Arthur should sound like? There is no "traditional british accent" only stereotypes Americans think are British accents...that'd be like Keira learning a generic american accent to play her role in The Jacket (which requires a Vermont accent). She's actually getting coaching in the correct accent, as opposed to just trying a general "American" accent. King Arthur legends differ, some say he was a scot, others an Irishman, others say he was from the south of England, others the north...and of course there's the Roman theory which the film is based on (which would mean he wouldn't have a traditional English accent at all but a mixture of a "Roman" accent <whatever that sounds like> and an old English accent <which is different from modern accents>...so it's not the stereotype). In Short...Arthur sounds however the film's writers and producers WANT him to sound (well, short of sounding American as the legends surfaced long before America was discovered :))

IF the film called for a MODERN traditional british accent, you'd be right, but it doesn't...

Kyle_West
02-07-2004, 04:18 AM
I forgot to touch on what I meant from the way arthur sounds. It could mean alot of things. Like you said the writer/producer wanted him to sound that way. Now if thats what they want then thats it. There isn't a right or wrong in that case. But I just said for the sake of saying it that maybe there could've been more there. Since the movie hasn't been released yet (5 more days here) I cannot judge how it sounds. Since I may hear about 10 words in the commercial. But it isn't impressive to me anyway. Kinda where the "I could do that" comes from. Not by any means did I mean to state a 16 year old american should've been hired for King Arthur. That is obsured in all ways imaginable.

acliff
02-07-2004, 06:54 PM
Funny, Well lets see. You can't always judge me because you have no idea what I sound like. I do traditional brittish accents in theatre and in monologues. I have a very smooth deep voice. Now it's not like a lash out at clive owen. I have been reading how potc was saved by depp so I was comparing owen with this. He is not a savior when it comes to acting. I may be wrong and this movie may prove to be an incredible role for him. Nonetheless, I work hard on my accent. It may come natural to some people, but I have to work at it. It's not bad, so don't judge it. Also, because you're older that automatically means everything I say is dog shit and I'm some sort of neanderthal? Whats gives?

Good for you. I was assuming you had learnt how to do the British accent through acting, drama. Except that all you get taught is traditional english. This film would be a fucking farce if Clive Owen sounded like Hugh Grant, and in general a posh upper class twat. I would boycott it for that reason. I like Clive Owen's voice in this, as it is gritty, earthy, non London and what I would imagine a hardnut Roman soldier would sound like (if transfered to modern day English and pronounciation). In fact I'm a little concerned that Keira's voice will be too posh for the film.

Now, my voice is remarkably similar to Orlando Bloom. If I played King Arthur (which would be useless, me never looking intense, and being Korean and all) I would change my accent completely.

That, 'American? you kid' was a pun. Which I noticed and left in for your benefit.

Kyle_West
03-07-2004, 02:20 AM
That was funny. I liked the Hugh Grant remark. Props to it. Indeed it would be a catastrophe if that voice was in it. For the sake of this little debate, I don't sound like Hugh Grant, and thank God. But I know what you're saying, you think is voice is just fine. In which the voice of a character really is something stupid to argue about so I will end this by saying I love Clive Owen.

aim
03-07-2004, 06:46 AM
i do think, i think it is gonna be a lovely movie, violence and romance!!! :eek: :p http://outnow.ch/Media/Img/2004/KingArthur/?i=movie%2E2%2F02%2Ejpg&w=724&h=1400

keira loves lipgloss
03-07-2004, 07:35 AM
me 2 i love some of the costumes she wears they look great on keira but anything looks great on keira!!!

Mistikle
03-07-2004, 05:29 PM
the movie doesn't come out in australia until July 15th... lookin forward to see it when it come out!!

From 'English Rose' To 'Warrior'
Actress Keira Knightly plays this Machiavellian Guinevere, a woman who is driven by an overwhelming ambition to liberate her people.

"She's no damsel in distress," says Knightly. "The only Guinevere we've ever seen is someone who gets passed from man to man and doesn't have much to say about it. Our Guinevere is alot tougher than that. She's a fighter, a warrior, as much as any man- and she does have something to fight for. That's based on historical fact- the women did fight on equal standing with the men. That's never really been shown before."

"She would terrify me," she says. "We do show that there is a soft side to her; there has to be a soft side, but i think that has to be suppressed when there is a cause to fight."

In addition to the unusual part, the chance to work with her co-stars proved an attraction as well. "i've got seven hunks in leather; what more can a girl ask for?"

source from sunday herald sun, July 4, 2004

aznkkfan
10-07-2004, 01:41 AM
I agree with paul. People have their own theories of King arthur. I became a fan at age 7 when my librarian read a picture book to my class :D I'm sure a lot of ppl have heard about arthur, but with the books I have read (which is a lot) it takes a person forever to separate mythical arthur and the real arthur. So i'm guessing that not many ppl will want to see it because of the confusion, but i think that some ppl will see because it's a bruckheimer film. howver you spell his name :o
As for me i think it'll be great

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 05:45 AM
I thought KA was a much needed breath of fresh air from all the superhero movies of this summer. It stars one of the best ensamble casts, most relatively unknown( hmmm, Lord of the Rings, anyone?) The battle scenes were unforgettable, riveling LOTR or Braveheart( and that's saying something). It also has the hottest actress in the world:) most people will rip it up thinking of the legend as just that. for all the critics, watch the first 2 minutes of the movie, and then reply to me.

Hazzle
11-07-2004, 05:34 PM
LOTR was pants though...well the Fellowship was alright...Two Towers was a little worse...but Return of the King, after starting off SOOO well...had the worst ending any movie has ever had...and yes...I know the book had a long ending but it wasn't as if Peter Jackson didn't hack up the book to make his films, so why not work better on the ending? Hmm...cos he was out to make a pansy version of a great book? Yeah...sounds right.

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 06:19 PM
LOTR was pants though...well the Fellowship was alright...Two Towers was a little worse...but Return of the King, after starting off SOOO well...had the worst ending any movie has ever had...and yes...I know the book had a long ending but it wasn't as if Peter Jackson didn't hack up the book to make his films, so why not work better on the ending? Hmm...cos he was out to make a pansy version of a great book? Yeah...sounds right.


Peter Jackson had to include the long ending from the book, since he had to stay true to the source material. I think he did a fantastic job on recreating one of the best books known to mankind, unlike the Harry Potter series. That has one of the worst book to movie translations ever, it had so many loop holes in it, the director/s did give time to explain all of the story/contents, and they cut a crapload of content so they could fit all of the good/ mindless parts into a 2 and a half hour movie.

Hazzle
11-07-2004, 06:20 PM
Peter Jackson had to include the long ending from the book, since he had to stay true to the source material. I think he did a fantastic job on recreating one of the best books known to mankind, unlike the Harry Potter series. That has one of the worst book to movie translations ever, it had so many loop holes in it, the director/s did give time to explain all of the story/contents, and they cut a crapload of content so they could fit all of the good/ mindless parts into a 2 and a half hour movie.

The thing is he never stayed true to the source material at all. The scouring of the shire? Thank you and goodnight.

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 06:48 PM
The thing is he never stayed true to the source material at all. The scouring of the shire? Thank you and goodnight.



Would you have really wanted to sit through an extra hour of movie:) I guess what I am trying to say is that LOTR has the best book to movie transition ever, even if the ending was a little overdone. but why keep rambeling on a subject that has nothing to do with Keira? :)

Hazzle
11-07-2004, 08:15 PM
Would you have really wanted to sit through an extra hour of movie:) I guess what I am trying to say is that LOTR has the best book to movie transition ever, even if the ending was a little overdone. but why keep rambeling on a subject that has nothing to do with Keira? :)

If it was well done? Sure...length has never worried me with films, if they're good...thing is Peter Jackson can't direct to save his life...I've never liked his work.

As for rambling about this subject...couldn't agree more...but to link it back...Antoine Fuqua by contrast is amazing director...Mr Jackson isn't fit to even lick his boots.

Kelsey
11-07-2004, 08:33 PM
Just because you don't like someone or something doesn't make them bad, it just means it doesn't appeal to your tastes.

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 10:40 PM
Thank you Kelsey. I have no problem w/ Mr. Antoine, he directed one of my favorite movies of all time(Training Day) and if Pete is so bad, than why did he win the best director oscar for ROTK? I'm just giving you crap hassle were just getting our opinions out
:cool:

Hazzle
11-07-2004, 10:41 PM
Just because you don't like someone or something doesn't make them bad, it just means it doesn't appeal to your tastes.

And that wasn't off topic :D

Yeah, well, what does make them bad? There is no objective taste, no objective good or bad...and who gives a flying fuck if the majority like something? I often believe most of the public are thick and need to be taken out back and shot...Ducky suggests reeducation is possible but I'm not so sure :)

Back to King Arthur...Antoine Fuqua yet again...may remember him from Training Day and others...this his best work or not? (I'm actually curious, I'm not just clinging to try and keep it on topic :p)

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 10:48 PM
And that wasn't off topic :D

Yeah, well, what does make them bad? There is no objective taste, no objective good or bad...and who gives a flying fuck if the majority like something? I often believe most of the public are thick and need to be taken out back and shot...Ducky suggests reeducation is possible but I'm not so sure :)

Back to King Arthur...Antoine Fuqua yet again...may remember him from Training Day and others...this his best work or not? (I'm actually curious, I'm not just clinging to try and keep it on topic :p)

Two points I agree with you on hassle:
1: the "thick headed public" is damn straight- most see crappy movies, critics give great ones bad scores, and vice-versa(Chicago, LOTR King Arthur, etc...)
2: Antoine's best work I think is King Arthur, do not listen to the shit reviewers tell you about, go with your instinct.

Jacoby
11-07-2004, 10:48 PM
I guess what I am trying to say is that LOTR has the best book to movie transition ever,

You're forgetting One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest aren't you? :)

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 10:51 PM
You're forgetting One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest aren't you? :)

Never saw/ read it before. I'm not much of a Jack Nicalous(s/p) fan, although I did like his Joker character on the orighinal Batman, and his work in the Shinning.

acliff
11-07-2004, 11:12 PM
You're forgetting One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest aren't you? :)

I think they're forgetting Jurassic Park, Silence of the Lambs, and a host of other fantastic book to film translations.

Now I was extremely impressed with Training day. However, KA is a very different type of film, and I haven't seen any real evidence (i haven't seen KA yet, out on the 30th) that he can direct this type. To me the difference is like seeing a movie poster saying:

' "Suspenseful Axe Murderer 3", directed by the director of "Winnie the Pooh, fantastic adventures" '

frodo1511
11-07-2004, 11:18 PM
I think they're forgetting Jurassic Park, Silence of the Lambs, and a host of other fantastic book to film translations.

Now I was extremely impressed with Training day. However, KA is a very different type of film, and I haven't seen any real evidence (i haven't seen KA yet, out on the 30th) that he can direct this type. To me the difference is like seeing a movie poster saying:

' "Suspenseful Axe Murderer 3", directed by the director of "Winnie the Pooh, fantastic adventures" '

I did like JP, but I hate Steven Spielberg:( I saw Silence of the Lambs and liked it, but haven't read the book. oh, and acliff, don't worry about Antoine not being able to pull off a movie like this. He does it superbly.

Spire
12-07-2004, 03:34 AM
KA isn't even close to PotC, but it doesn't suck either. I shall be buying it as soon as it hits DVD, adding it to my smalll collection.

Edward
12-07-2004, 10:19 AM
Antoine Fuqua is the dude!!

Hazzle
12-07-2004, 10:38 PM
KA isn't even close to PotC, but it doesn't suck either. I shall be buying it as soon as it hits DVD, adding it to my smalll collection.

Oh dear...if it's not even close to POTC which I felt was an average film carried by a stellar performance by Mr Depp (who so should've won the Oscar...yes...Bill Murray in LIT was good, excellent in fact, but LIT was a far better film with better material...Johnny carried what should've been an average film into the blockbuster stakes), then I'll probably really dislike it...I hope not.

frodo1511
12-07-2004, 10:57 PM
Trust me, hassle, the movie is awesome. I actually thought it was better than POTC, since I only like Orlando shooting arrows, although I did find Depp quite humerous at times(" I think I deserved that one") :)

goldenfish209
20-07-2004, 11:26 AM
no your not the only one i think this film looks great i even persuaded 2 ppl to see it wid meall i said was it has keira knightly in and they were coming with me :D he he he

ChocolateMoose
20-07-2004, 03:25 PM
I can't wait to see it...only a few more days until it comes out... :D I've got very high expectations of it as it looks great, so hope I'm not disappointed when I actually see it.

KeirazBabe
20-07-2004, 03:33 PM
Well i personally LOVE POTC and king arthur is not my 'type' of film.. im only going to see it for keira and for that reason i say it'll be pretty good.. as long as they dont have toooo many scenes without her i'll be fine haha.
I love humour and i doubt this film will be classes a 'comedy' lol but as it seems the humourous line "dont worry i wont let them rape you" is a gay humourus line.. i'll let it slip lol.
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