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hasselbrad
29-10-2004, 05:20 PM
...bitching about? Halloween's the fault of y'all in the UK anyway. :rolleyes:

Halloween traditions of trick-or-treating and jack-o-lanterns were
brought to America in the 1840s by Irish escaping the Great Potato Famine.
On Halloween, Irish peasants begged the rich for food and played practical jokes on those who refused. To avoid being tricked, the rich handed out cookies, candies, and fruit - a practice that turned into our
present day trick-or-treating.

Jack-o-lanterns trace back to an old Irish tale about a man named
Stingy Jack. Unable to enter Heaven because of his stingy ways and turned
away by the Devil, Stingy Jack wandered the world, searching for a resting place. To light his way, Stingy Jack used a burning coal in a hollowed out turnip -- hence the name "jack-o-lantern." The first jack-o-lanterns, in fact, were carved out of turnips. Only when the Irish tradition reached America did turnip carving turn into pumpkin carving.

Witch means wise one. It comes from the Saxon word wica. Witches were
thought to be wise enough to tell the future.

Orange and black became Halloween colors because of orange is
associated with harvests and black is associated with death.

There are many variations on the history of Halloween, but it's
generally believed that Halloween dates back to 700 B.C. to the Celts, a rural
society in northern England, Ireland and Scotland. On November 1, the
first day of their new year, the Celts celebrated a festival called
Samhain ("sow-in").

Chosen to signify the end of the harvest season and the onset of winter, Samhain was also thought to be a day of the dead. Because it was the end of one year and the start of another, the Celts believed that past and present were closely linked, allowing ancestral spirits to join them.

On the eve of Samhain, October 31, the Celts dressed in costume, lit
bonfires, and offered food and drink to masked revelers. Many say the
costumes and fires were used to drive away the spirits, and the food given
to placate the dead.

October 31 came to be called Halloween when the Christians proclaimed
November 1 as All Hallow Day. Unable to stop the pagan ritual of Samhain, the Christians made it a day to celebrate saints who had no day of their own. The night before, or All Hallow Eve, was later shortened to Halloween.


Happy Halloween!

Hazzle
29-10-2004, 05:28 PM
Yes, the original tradition IS British. The thing is, the tradition's been lost in the usual crass Americanisation, where a good tradition is taken and turned into a commercial money spinner, destroying the heart and soul and leaving a plastic replica of the TRUE holiday in its place.

It's that holiday I refuse to follow. Anyway, those were the pagan freaks we had for forefathers...doesn't mean we have to be imbecilic and follow in their uneducated footsteps now, does it?

I'm sorry, but I've always found American "traditions" feel really plastic and fake, and they make me taste the familiar taste of bile in my throat.

Surprisingly enough, despite that, I still love America. How rare.

hasselbrad
29-10-2004, 05:31 PM
Yeah...I cut out the part about it being the 8th ranking holiday for card sales. Who the fuck buys Halloween cards? My mother...that's who. She sent my daughter a card for Halloween. :err:

Hazzle
29-10-2004, 05:33 PM
Yeah...I cut out the part about it being the 8th ranking holiday for card sales. Who the fuck buys Halloween cards? My mother...that's who. She sent my daughter a card for Halloween. :err:

Harrrr. It's like Valentine's Day (yeah, my army of female admirers will now all turn on me now, I bet you), wtf? If you love someone, you show them how much you love them 365 days a year, and your fucking anniversary is surely a hell of a lot more important than some crass commercial holiday that bears little or no resemblance to the traditions from which it apparently originates.

Ashley
29-10-2004, 06:34 PM
Halloween is the 3rd best "holiday" behind Christmas and Thanksgiving. Who the hell cares what is was supposed to be, it is what it is: good fun.

duckula
29-10-2004, 09:23 PM
I heard its legal to sell anthrax on halloween if it falls on a thursday, on any other day you have to eat jelly. No jelly for cats.

Sarah
29-10-2004, 09:32 PM
I bitch about Hallowe'en because its just stupid. Hallowe'en gives children the excuse to smear wallpaper paste down our drive, so that we slip over on the 1st November.

Damn those kids.

hasselbrad
29-10-2004, 09:34 PM
I bitch about Hallowe'en because its just stupid. Hallowe'en gives children the excuse to smear wallpaper paste down our drive, so that we slip over on the 1st November.

Damn those kids.

That's what slingshots and covering foilage are for, you big silly! :p

Hazzle
30-10-2004, 01:47 AM
Halloween is the 3rd best "holiday" behind Christmas and Thanksgiving. Who the hell cares what is was supposed to be, it is what it is: good fun.

No, what it IS is silly.

I bitch about Hallowe'en because its just stupid. Hallowe'en gives children the excuse to smear wallpaper paste down our drive, so that we slip over on the 1st November.

Damn those kids.

See this girl talks sense.